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Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
3. Bernie Sanders, meanwhile, is the Trump of the left.
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:24 PM
May 2016

I think a good way to analyse the politics of America - and much of the rest of the West - over the past decade or so is on a two-dimensional plot with right vs left as one axis and populist vs what its supporters call technocratic and its opponents establishment politics.

This primary season has given a beautiful microcosm of that - Clinton, Sanders, Bush or Rubio and Trump embody the four quadrants (Left, Establishment), (Left, Populist), (Right, Establishment), (Right, Populist) as clearly as one could hope for.

The obvious trend that becomes clear when viewed on this 2-plot that's much less clear if you only project onto right/left is the rise of populism - six months ago no data-based commentator gave Sanders or Trump a snowball's chance in hell, but in fact Trump has won and Sanders has lost by a much smaller margin than expected.

You can see similar trends across Europe - the rise of Syriza and the Golden Dawn in Greece, the recent runoff between the far right and an ex-Green in Austria's presidential election, the NF in France, the Greens and the far right rising in Germany, a variety of left-wing populist movements and, interestingly, a centrist populist movement (generally the populist centre looks a bit bare) in Spain, and Jeremy Corbyn, the SNP and UKIP here in the UK.

An obvious qualifier to this trend is that, in general, populists haven't risen far enough to win yet - the only one of the examples I've listed who is actually governing a country is Syriza, and to call their rule to date a clusterfuck would be to miss a perfect opportunity to use the word omnishambles. So it's not yet clear how far this tide is going to rise, or if it's going to go some way up and then remain or recede. But, certainly, populism is much less fringe than it was 10 years ago, and the narrowness of Clinton's victory over Sanders reflects that.

Except she's not on the Left - she's Right-of-Center.[n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #1
Yeah, that's how I'd put it Retrograde May 2016 #2
Bernie Sanders, meanwhile, is the Trump of the left. Donald Ian Rankin May 2016 #3
Said no stable person ever. NCTraveler May 2016 #4
Except for the winning part. nt Buzz cook May 2016 #5
Really? HRC is similar to Jeb! Bush? That's going a bit too far there. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #6
You misread. She's similar but opposite of Jeb. floriduck May 2016 #7
His aloofness is HRC's keenness. His verbal stumbles is HRC's clarity, His dislike is HRC's like? TheBlackAdder May 2016 #8
There was a great post a few days ago with the headline about how Hillary is One Black Sheep May 2016 #9
Anyone can spin a comparison. Now, a fact is that humans have evolutionary ties to fungi. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #12
Yah, well there is a big difference between them. MineralMan May 2016 #10
I didn't write the story. I put it on here for discussion. It did its job. Thanks for participating floriduck May 2016 #14
I didn't say you did. MineralMan May 2016 #16
More like the Democratic Richard Nixon of the 21st Cemtury eom PufPuf23 May 2016 #11
Great comparison, except for one, teeny, almost infinitesimal detail; Tarc May 2016 #13
Does that say more about the GOP or the Dem establishment? It could be either or both. floriduck May 2016 #15
And yet, Bernie Sanders is such a weak candidate that he can't beat her? alcibiades_mystery May 2016 #17
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