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elleng

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Wed May 25, 2016, 01:49 AM
May 2016

'At the beginning of her speech to 18,000 attendees at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee’s annual policy conference in March, Hillary Clinton offered a short but telling anecdote.
“Since my first visit to Israel 35 years ago, I have returned many times and made many friends. I have worked with and learned from some of Israel’s great leaders – although I don’t think Yitzhak Rabin ever forgave me for banishing him to the White House balcony when he wanted to smoke.”
Aside from earning a smattering of laughter, Clinton skillfully made a number of points: She presented a tidy portrait of herself as a longtime champion of Israel, highlighted her intimacy with a beloved, peace-seeking prime minister, and reminded the audience that she’s already at home in the White House.
Of all of the presidential candidates, from both parties, who
cluttered this primary season until recently, Clinton had the longest public record of engagement with Israel, and has spent decades diligently defending the Jewish state. Jewish voters have rewarded her for her loyalty: In the New York primary in April, she appeared to have easily won the Jewish vote 2-to-1, besting her Jewish rival, Bernie Sanders.
Sanders, meanwhile, is the most successful Jewish presidential candidate in United States history and has the closest personal relationship to Israel, having lived on a kibbutz there for a brief stint in the 1960s. He is also the candidate offering the most critical views on the U.S.-Israel relationship of any mainstream political candidate in recent memory. . .


Clinton’s campaign website makes much of her three-decade public commitment to Israel, dedicating an entire page to her personal, diplomatic and legislative history with the country under the headline: “Hillary Clinton and Israel: A 30-Year Record of Friendship, Leadership and Strength.”

Samples of the policy priorities that follow include guaranteeing “Israel’s qualitative military edge to ensure the IDF is equipped to deter and defeat aggression from the full spectrum of threats,” “stand up against the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement,” and “cut off efforts to unilaterally recognize Palestinian statehood outside of the context of negotiations with Israel.”
But Clinton has also found herself walking a tightrope as the former secretary of state under U.S. President Barack Obama, who has presided over a period of deteriorating U.S.-Israel diplomatic relations, owing in part to bad personal blood between Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and an Iran nuclear deal hugely unpopular with pro-Israel advocates.
Clinton helped lay the groundwork for that deal and now finds herself needing to both defend it and reassure its critics.

“We must maintain the legal and diplomatic architecture to turn all the sanctions back on if needed,” she said in her AIPAC speech. “If I’m elected the leaders of Iran will have no doubt that if we see any indication that they are violating their commitment not to seek, develop or acquire nuclear weapons, the United States will act to stop it, and that we will do so with force if necessary.”
Heading into the 2008 presidential primaries, Clinton was favored by Jewish voters but ultimately lost to Obama. As his secretary of state, she was involved in a number of miscalculations that helped sour his relationship with the Israeli government, including supporting his call for a settlement freeze in 2009, which she later came to regret.

“In retrospect, our early, hard line on settlements didn’t work,” Clinton wrote in “Hard Choices,” her 2014 memoir.
But she continued to criticize the policy, telling CNN that settlements were “my biggest complaint with the Israeli government.” She went on: “The continuing settlements which have been denounced by successive American administrations on both sides of the aisle are clearly a terrible signal to send if at the same time you claim you’re looking for a two-state solution.”
Clinton made this point at the height of the Gaza War in the summer of 2014, but was firm in placing the blame for that conflict with Hamas. “I have said publicly – and I believe it – that Hamas provoked Israel in order to actually cause what we are now seeing,” she said in the CNN interview. . .

Two weeks earlier, however, Sanders correctly cited the largely accepted United Nations figure of 1,500 civilian deaths during the Gaza War in a Middle East policy speech. The speech was noteworthy in part because of where it did not take place: at AIPAC, where Sanders had been invited, but declined to attend, offering instead to speak via video, which the conference declined.
Instead, he outlined his priorities at a high school in Salt Lake City, Utah, explicitly expressing his concerns for the Palestinian people.
“So when we talk about Israel and Palestinian areas, it is important to understand that today there is a whole lot of suffering among Palestinians and that cannot be ignored,” he said. “You can’t have good policy that results in peace if you ignore one side.”...

The balancing act reflects a long and complicated relationship with Netanyahu: She chewed him out in a 2010 phone call over a settlement embarrassment involving Vice President Joe Biden, and said, in the 2014 CNN interview, “I’ve known Bibi a long time and I have a very good relationship with him, in part because we can yell at each other, and we do. And I was often the designated yeller.”
Clinton now seems to be counting on the fact that her decades-old history with Israel and willingness to engage with that country’s leader will thaw the perceived cold war of the Obama years, soothe over the partisan cracks in the U.S.-Israel relationship and win over the conservative Jewish leaders who are simply too uncomfortable with Donald Trump to get behind him.
But while Sanders has succeeded in nudging Clinton to the left on certain economic policies over the course of the primary campaign, on Israel, she hasn’t budged.'


Gaza shares similarities with the Warsaw Ghetto Chasstev365 May 2016 #1
Not this crap again. COLGATE4 May 2016 #13
Bullshit. Fawke Em May 2016 #20
The Palestinians? COLGATE4 May 2016 #21
The Arabs... your point? Fawke Em May 2016 #23
You sure????? glitterbag May 2016 #28
Am I sure Arabs coined math... yea Fawke Em May 2016 #30
Do some research oberliner May 2016 #31
no kidding. Just like Sanders highly inflated figures on the number of deaths in Gaza in 2014 still_one May 2016 #61
A wall built for what???? 6chars May 2016 #72
Literally the first response compares Israel to Nazi Germany oberliner May 2016 #16
Well... do some research. Fawke Em May 2016 #22
An average of 3,000 people per month died of starvation in the Warsaw Ghetto. oberliner May 2016 #27
I have. Lots of it. And comparing Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto is either ignorant or cali May 2016 #81
Israel's former prime minister is comparing Israel's government to Nazi Germany. w4rma May 2016 #26
That's not true oberliner May 2016 #29
I read it. I've read similar articles like it. I'm completely in agreement with ex-PM Ehud Barak. w4rma May 2016 #32
Barak didn't say anything about Nazi Germany oberliner May 2016 #36
Barak’s comments come just weeks after Israeli Maj.-Gen. Yair Golan compared Israel to Nazi Germany w4rma May 2016 #39
What's obsene is killing kids and saying that it's, "OK." Fawke Em May 2016 #33
Agreed oberliner May 2016 #37
Israel…“infected by the seeds of fascism…”taken over by “extremists,” warn ex-prime minister and w4rma May 2016 #24
trust me, AIPAC and the pro-Israel grassroots majority ericson00 May 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #3
majorities/pluralities of Democrats support Israel. You haters are an absolute minority ericson00 May 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #5
Terror!! AgingAmerican May 2016 #6
I'm gutted over this. My husband gets to say "told ya so" once again. grossproffit May 2016 #10
Yep. I guess Bernie figures that a handful of BDSers will put him over the top. COLGATE4 May 2016 #14
I don't think he's on a full court BDS press.. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #49
I have some email friends leftynyc May 2016 #73
Hate? Fawke Em May 2016 #25
Don't let these people get under your skin. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #38
Yeah you may want to slow down with some of that nonsense.... Joe the Revelator May 2016 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #58
Israel is a right wing fascist state AgingAmerican May 2016 #7
Do the gay, atheist and feminist GulfCoast66 May 2016 #9
Palestinian leadership is pretty right-wing and fascist as well oberliner May 2016 #17
They are living in a walled prison AgingAmerican May 2016 #46
they voted Hamas in before the blockade buddy ericson00 May 2016 #54
The present conflict was caused INTENTIONALLY by Ariel Sharon AgingAmerican May 2016 #56
did you sleep thru the 1980s and 1990s? ericson00 May 2016 #57
Before he went to the temple mount, over 1/2 million Palestinians crossed into Israel daily AgingAmerican May 2016 #77
Yes - how DARE leftynyc May 2016 #74
only Muslims can be religious and "progressives" have zero problem ericson00 May 2016 #78
If Bill Maher ever leftynyc May 2016 #79
And what would be their leftynyc May 2016 #84
right, the only ME country ranked Free by Freedom House Freedom in the World ericson00 May 2016 #35
They are running an apartheid system AgingAmerican May 2016 #48
That is just really silly. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #45
Israel is "Infected by the seeds of fascism" AgingAmerican May 2016 #50
So far you have called Israel a fascist state and an apartheid state. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #51
Read the article I posted AgingAmerican May 2016 #53
politicians say such stuff in their own countries for domestic consumption; ericson00 May 2016 #59
Yes it is. n/t Ghost Dog May 2016 #71
Being able to post here leftynyc May 2016 #85
That's totalitarianism. Ghost Dog May 2016 #87
And Abbas and Hamas leftynyc May 2016 #75
You got that right. grossproffit May 2016 #8
And...HAIM SABAN ericson00 May 2016 #12
If Bernie were to lose me, this is going to be why... Joe the Revelator May 2016 #47
looking forward to him actually going over there and doing something about it instead of yakking msongs May 2016 #11
As if that's ever going to happen. COLGATE4 May 2016 #15
Hillary's been anywhere in Palestine? Fawke Em May 2016 #19
I have a call into my son's family. Fawke Em May 2016 #18
Most people are probably thinking they'll believe it when they see it. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #34
Yes, but James Zogby is gonna be on the panel... Fawke Em May 2016 #62
Not really. Is he pretty good on this issue? Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #64
some "annihilation" when the Palestinian population keeps rising ericson00 May 2016 #40
You really are full of shit. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #41
deliberate mischaracterization is not "criticism" of anything; its HATE ericson00 May 2016 #42
If it's HATE go ahead and report it to the SPLC they'll probably laugh in your face Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #43
Pointing out that hyperbolic bullshit leftynyc May 2016 #76
Wait what I didn't say any of those things though Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #80
Not you personally leftynyc May 2016 #82
I actually agree there are some weird or inaccurate claims being thrown around. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #83
I think it's incredibly generous leftynyc May 2016 #86
Doubt it. elleng May 2016 #52
can't read past the paywall... ericson00 May 2016 #55
Partial: elleng May 2016 #60
Without getting into a full Israel/Palestinian discussion, Bill Clinton during his final months in still_one May 2016 #63
'She vowed a stronger relationship between the U.S. and Israel, elleng May 2016 #65
She's also leading the charge to counter the divestment movement Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #66
I am against the BDS also, as are most of the American public. Most Americans support still_one May 2016 #68
Were you against the campaign to divest from South Africa in the 80s? Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #69
I was against apartheid. Apartheid ended through a series of negotiations in the nineties, and still_one May 2016 #70
I don't have a problem with that. President Obama maintains the a similar relationship. The media still_one May 2016 #67
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