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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Can we all agree the convention won't be brokered? What does a contested convention accomplish? [View all]MH1
(17,573 posts)44. Bush was a horrible candidate
yet somehow he got close enough to steal it in both 2000 and 2004. You can say that Gore and Kerry both made mistakes, but if you said Kerry wasn't a "strong candidate" you'd be wrong. Gore had some issues but is and was a way better human being and far better for the country than Bush.
We underestimate Trump and the GOP machine at our peril. Clinton should have this thing easily, but every bit we can pad the score is all to the better. Why take chances?
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Can we all agree the convention won't be brokered? What does a contested convention accomplish? [View all]
Garrett78
May 2016
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It will be a brokered convention with both Sanders and Clinton arriving without hitting the magic
Samantha
May 2016
#5
It won't be brokered. For one thing, that would require there being more than 2 candidates.
Garrett78
May 2016
#6
I think there only has to be two and she will not walk in the door with 2383 (eom)
Samantha
May 2016
#8
I am exhausted and not being evasive -- I misunderstood you were not recommending him dropping out
Samantha
May 2016
#89
Assuming she continues to have all the superdelegates Bill Clinton lined up for her before the
Samantha
May 2016
#83
Only when people are confused about the difference between brokered and contested.
Garrett78
May 2016
#61
At least for the past half century or so "brokered" has meant "no nominee on the first ballot"
Recursion
May 2016
#7
It would accomplish nothing, and I believe it would hurt Sanders since I believe the majority of the
still_one
May 2016
#11
I was essentially asking for everyone to agree that there are only 2 candidates. Or that 2+2=4.
Garrett78
May 2016
#20
I don't have a crystal ball. I have no clue what might happen between now and July.
merrily
May 2016
#54
So, with only 2 candidates, you're not sure if 1 of them will get a majority?
Garrett78
May 2016
#55
Well, if Sanders doesn't concede, he would - by definition - be contesting the convention.
Garrett78
May 2016
#64
Which is really no different than agreeing that the convention won't be brokered.
Garrett78
May 2016
#45
It should not be brokered. Bernie should drop out after California and before D.C.
cali
May 2016
#23
Why are you folks so desperate for this to go your own way? If Hillary is such a strong candidate,
highprincipleswork
May 2016
#24
I'm not desperate for anything, nor am I a Clinton fan. You didn't actually address my questions.
Garrett78
May 2016
#37
You know, you're right. Got carried away. Must be posting too late. But
highprincipleswork
May 2016
#52
I don't underestimate Trump. I just know that a corporate, establishment candidate is the worst
highprincipleswork
May 2016
#53
LWolf didn't actually address my questions, so I'm not sure what he/she cares about.
Garrett78
May 2016
#69
I don't wish to argue electability, but how does contesting the convention accomplish those things?
Garrett78
May 2016
#42
It benefits us if there is one last chance to go with an electable nominee.
lagomorph777
May 2016
#71
Alrighty then; I see you are genuinely suffering with anxiety about the contested convention
lagomorph777
May 2016
#75