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Garrett78

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64. Well, if Sanders doesn't concede, he would - by definition - be contesting the convention.
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:58 PM
May 2016

And quite a few on DU seem to be advocating for a contested convention. But I wonder if any of them have actually thought critically about what that would accomplish, who it would benefit and how.

I think he'll concede June 10th. joshcryer May 2016 #1
D.C. doesn't vote until June 14. grasswire May 2016 #3
DC is going to be an absolute shellacking. auntpurl May 2016 #50
I would agree because he is a bitter, bitter man. Gomez163 May 2016 #76
And what will contesting the convention accomplish? Garrett78 May 2016 #80
It's Bernie who wants a massive fight not his followers. nt fun n serious May 2016 #2
LOL grasswire May 2016 #4
The Candidate sets the tone. fun n serious May 2016 #14
Notice how we are Hillary supporters but we seem quiet like her? fun n serious May 2016 #15
We are the group that will actually show up to vote in November. tonyt53 May 2016 #51
LOL! You know this how? merrily May 2016 #29
It will be a brokered convention with both Sanders and Clinton arriving without hitting the magic Samantha May 2016 #5
It won't be brokered. For one thing, that would require there being more than 2 candidates. Garrett78 May 2016 #6
I think there only has to be two and she will not walk in the door with 2383 (eom) Samantha May 2016 #8
You have it backward. Garrett78 May 2016 #10
Well, read this quote and tell me these terms are not "mushy" Samantha May 2016 #19
That confirms what I wrote in my OP. Garrett78 May 2016 #21
Finality Samantha May 2016 #82
I'm not suggesting that Sanders drop out before the primaries conclude. Garrett78 May 2016 #84
Where is the harm in letting it unfold naturally? Why should he drop out? Samantha May 2016 #87
Are you reading what I'm writing? Garrett78 May 2016 #88
I am exhausted and not being evasive -- I misunderstood you were not recommending him dropping out Samantha May 2016 #89
Clinton will have the majority on the first vote Demsrule86 May 2016 #28
Assuming she continues to have all the superdelegates Bill Clinton lined up for her before the Samantha May 2016 #83
She has way more delegates and votes Demsrule86 May 2016 #31
She has 271 more pledged delegates than he Samantha May 2016 #85
She has maintained a lead greater than Obama ever had in 2008. Garrett78 May 2016 #86
Well, you have the answer to your OP question, anyway. So, there's that. merrily May 2016 #32
No, I don't. Garrett78 May 2016 #40
The question was if we can all agree. Apparently we can't merrily May 2016 #58
Only when people are confused about the difference between brokered and contested. Garrett78 May 2016 #61
At least for the past half century or so "brokered" has meant "no nominee on the first ballot" Recursion May 2016 #7
Agreed. I would hope we can all agree on that point. But... Garrett78 May 2016 #9
It would accomplish nothing, and I believe it would hurt Sanders since I believe the majority of the still_one May 2016 #11
I'm torn between "nothing" and "it would be harmful." Garrett78 May 2016 #12
What's with all the "Can we all agree..." posts? Contrary1 May 2016 #13
We have goals that require us to come togther and be strong. fun n serious May 2016 #16
Some things are ripe for a consensus. Garrett78 May 2016 #17
I don't think that the convention will be brokered or even contested... Contrary1 May 2016 #18
I was essentially asking for everyone to agree that there are only 2 candidates. Or that 2+2=4. Garrett78 May 2016 #20
A wish is not an infomred opinion Demsrule86 May 2016 #27
Thank you. merrily May 2016 #33
But there are things we can all (for the most part) agree on. Garrett78 May 2016 #41
I don't have a crystal ball. I have no clue what might happen between now and July. merrily May 2016 #54
So, with only 2 candidates, you're not sure if 1 of them will get a majority? Garrett78 May 2016 #55
I don't even know if there will be two candidates by July. merrily May 2016 #56
Well, there will either be 2 or 1. Garrett78 May 2016 #60
Who is contesting the convention? Sorry, I don't have much of an interest in merrily May 2016 #62
Well, if Sanders doesn't concede, he would - by definition - be contesting the convention. Garrett78 May 2016 #64
Perhaps we can agree on 2 + 2 = 4 MH1 May 2016 #43
Which is really no different than agreeing that the convention won't be brokered. Garrett78 May 2016 #45
2 + 2 = 10 in base 4 arithmetic. ;-) aidbo May 2016 #77
Yes but that is still 4 if you convert it back to base 10. :) MH1 May 2016 #78
More "subtle" (lol) pressure to unify behind Princess Weathervane. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #47
No, I'm asking what contesting the convention would accomplish? Garrett78 May 2016 #57
I expect some fast PATRICK May 2016 #22
It won't happen that way Demsrule86 May 2016 #26
Chill PATRICK May 2016 #30
First ballot Demsrule86 May 2016 #35
It should not be brokered. Bernie should drop out after California and before D.C. cali May 2016 #23
Why are you folks so desperate for this to go your own way? If Hillary is such a strong candidate, highprincipleswork May 2016 #24
I'm not desperate for anything, nor am I a Clinton fan. You didn't actually address my questions. Garrett78 May 2016 #37
You know, you're right. Got carried away. Must be posting too late. But highprincipleswork May 2016 #52
Bush was a horrible candidate MH1 May 2016 #44
I don't underestimate Trump. I just know that a corporate, establishment candidate is the worst highprincipleswork May 2016 #53
WE have no control over what certain sore losers might do Demsrule86 May 2016 #25
What would it accomplish? Garrett78 May 2016 #63
Dunno. Can we all agree that there will be bvf May 2016 #34
No. Sorry, we can't "all agree." LWolf May 2016 #36
So, you think the convention will be brokered? Garrett78 May 2016 #38
I expect that it will be contested. LWolf May 2016 #90
I wouldn't bet against a contested convention. Garrett78 May 2016 #91
So, what you care about is symbolism? brooklynite May 2016 #65
LWolf didn't actually address my questions, so I'm not sure what he/she cares about. Garrett78 May 2016 #69
Possibly nominating an electable nominee? Preventing a Trump presidency? lagomorph777 May 2016 #39
I don't wish to argue electability, but how does contesting the convention accomplish those things? Garrett78 May 2016 #42
It benefits us if there is one last chance to go with an electable nominee. lagomorph777 May 2016 #71
Sanders not conceding has no bearing on the vote. Garrett78 May 2016 #72
OK, so for those who don't have a TeeVee, here's the deal: lagomorph777 May 2016 #73
You're not addressing my question. Garrett78 May 2016 #74
Alrighty then; I see you are genuinely suffering with anxiety about the contested convention lagomorph777 May 2016 #75
No anxiety. And Clinton's not my candidate. Garrett78 May 2016 #79
If he concedes, the probability of SDs flipping goes to zero. lagomorph777 May 2016 #81
There's nothing to "broker" or "contest" nt firebrand80 May 2016 #46
It's certainly possible that it will meet the definition of contested. Garrett78 May 2016 #48
It benefits the GOP, obviously firebrand80 May 2016 #49
As I wrote above, I'm torn between "it would accomplish nothing" and "it would help the GOP." Garrett78 May 2016 #66
I've heard two different things firebrand80 May 2016 #68
How does contesting accomplish either? Garrett78 May 2016 #70
I think it will be fine in the end.. Peacetrain May 2016 #59
What will be fine? Garrett78 May 2016 #67
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