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CincyDem

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36. This has always been a possibility...
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:17 PM
May 2016


Think about this from a probability point of view.

We know HRC was a speaker for GS. What are the odds that one or several of those speeches was officially recorded? My guess is pretty high since corporations look at things like this as "assets" to be used for other purposes within the firm at a future date. Maybe with another group of managers, maybe in another geography...whatever...just used again.

So, high odds there are videos.

What are the odds there is passage in those videos that can be carved out of context and presented as HRC's "47%" moment. My guess is pretty high, especially in the hands of such a$$hats as Roger Stone. I'm sure that in the context of her entire message, her comments will be benign but cut and paste messaging could make anyone sound bad.

So, high odds there are videos and high odds that there is a 10 second out of context sound bite that will sound pretty bad.

What are the odds that the Roger Stone's of the world will find someone willing to pay any price for a copy of that tape. My guess is that these tapes will be the hottest commodity of the general election season (unless someone has photos of Trump in a compromising position with a doberman - oh that we be so lucky...lol).

So, high odds there's a 10 second cut from these videos that ends up in a Trump or PAC ad going into November.

I don't know if this turns into October surprise but if anyone is going to dump this pile of BS out in the street and try to make a story of it...it's Trump. Unfortunately, the way it's been handled by the campaign leaves this as the only potential piece of meat in the chitstorm he's going to be peddling.

I voted to Bernie in the Ohio Primary and I fully intend to vote for HRC in the general (as well as very downticket D I can find). My biggest regret of the primary season is NOT that Bernie has run out of steam. It is that HRC didn't dump these tapes out at midnight on that debate night when the question was raised. By this time...whatever quote cutting that could be done would be old old news.

Instead, it's like trying to hold a fart in while riding the elevator up the Empire State Building. It's a long way to the top and you know you're going to lose the fight with mother nature around the 87th floor...and nobody has anywhere to hide.

In the end (i.e. the morning of 11/9/16) she wins but it's going to be so f'ing ugly along the way.

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Your concern is noted. nt Cali_Democrat May 2016 #1
I am genuinely concerned she could lose the general larkrake May 2016 #2
Is that why you made this story up? Renew Deal May 2016 #19
I wouldn't doubt it. Cruz's wife worked for Goldman-Sachs pinebox May 2016 #3
true, but this is a recent leak larkrake May 2016 #54
I think Cruz works for Cruz and is too much of a crud to care further about the election larkrake May 2016 #73
It is going to be a filthy G.E. oldandhappy May 2016 #4
You are probably right, I shudder to think. I think I will focus on state elections and larkrake May 2016 #6
with you oldandhappy May 2016 #22
Well I wish he'd share a little sample senz May 2016 #5
more of the same, only Repub leaning I suppose larkrake May 2016 #7
Yep, same here. One Black Sheep May 2016 #15
She has always been secretive, having been abused in the past by Media, Congress, larkrake May 2016 #42
I've been told the moon is made of green cheese. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #8
+1 auntpurl May 2016 #31
If he does it shows he would rather face HRC than Bernie. stillwaiting May 2016 #9
^^^Bingo^^^ lagomorph777 May 2016 #18
He is a master at timing. Unfortunate. Maybe he wont use it larkrake May 2016 #29
Is it a coincidence your username is similar to "kraken"? lagomorph777 May 2016 #33
is it? It is a family name actually- never made sense to me. now I can imagine larkrake May 2016 #51
Oops - sorry. lagomorph777 May 2016 #52
thats ok, does it mean Kraken? I would really like to know if it means anything larkrake May 2016 #62
I have no idea, but if it was my last name, I'd go with that. lagomorph777 May 2016 #64
What Spacedog1973 May 2016 #35
I think he meant master baiter. JEB May 2016 #50
Bada-BOOM! lagomorph777 May 2016 #53
He is good at baiting, even a master larkrake May 2016 #63
Love this! larkrake May 2016 #58
Yes, because he couldn't touch Bernie. zappaman May 2016 #34
interesting theory larkrake May 2016 #57
+1. We can only hope that if he has them she will get him angry enough to let em go before JudyM May 2016 #61
She is smart enough to do that- citing his bankrupsys is brilliant larkrake May 2016 #75
Who told you this? Renew Deal May 2016 #10
I have a friend of the advertising agent T is using. He splices video larkrake May 2016 #24
they still splice tape? Isn't it all digital today? floppyboo May 2016 #55
he calls it splicing when he takes chosen clips, its probably his langage habit larkrake May 2016 #65
Cool story, bro. nt Codeine May 2016 #74
Did a little birdie land on a podium and whisper this in your ear? boston bean May 2016 #11
If you were told by someone here at DU, take it to the bank. oasis May 2016 #12
I'm a scientist, I require proof, not rumor larkrake May 2016 #28
You've been told by who? sufrommich May 2016 #13
Told by whom cali May 2016 #14
You've been told? MineralMan May 2016 #16
October Surprise? B Calm May 2016 #17
Haha jcgoldie May 2016 #20
Indies do care, thats why they are Indies. Most Indies are liberal larkrake May 2016 #25
OMG OMG OMG *lights hair on fire and passes out* betsuni May 2016 #21
No, Romney is far worse, he is a vulture larkrake May 2016 #43
If Trump says he does, you can bank on its not being so. Orsino May 2016 #23
My first thought was "damn", then "would Trump poke a wolverine?" then larkrake May 2016 #37
Clinton's contract specifically forbade recording... Orsino May 2016 #38
wall street isnt a party, and they do as they damn well please larkrake May 2016 #46
If true that would clinch the election for Trump and bigger Republican majorities in Congress imagine2015 May 2016 #26
Would it effect Congress? Not if we do our jobs at our state levels larkrake May 2016 #39
Oh noooooo! Beausoir May 2016 #27
"I've been told..." Tarc May 2016 #30
luv you Jon larkrake May 2016 #47
Well, if you were told that, it must be true!!! zappaman May 2016 #32
This has always been a possibility... CincyDem May 2016 #36
I'm in total agreement, clips can be so misleading and the public larkrake May 2016 #40
I love all this concern Dem2 May 2016 #41
I'm sure there's a Yuuuge can of whoop-ass waiting for him. CincyDem May 2016 #44
So very true. He only attracts the very angry, the put upon , the reactive, the "under educated, larkrake May 2016 #48
I've been told the Lizard Overlords are plotting to take over the world. nt procon May 2016 #45
grow up, this is a real possibility in the digital world larkrake May 2016 #49
People drive themselves crazy speculating on what's 'possible'... looks like a short trip. nt procon May 2016 #68
You believe that liar? JRLeft May 2016 #56
try reading replys. larkrake May 2016 #59
So? Who cares? NT arely staircase May 2016 #60
I'm sorry you dont care- but alot of people dont larkrake May 2016 #67
(Virtually) nobody gives a shit. arely staircase May 2016 #69
Hillary voters dont care, nor should they. It has to be boring, I agree larkrake May 2016 #72
He also said he had really damning evidence against Obama's Birth in Hawaii Sheepshank May 2016 #66
Trump has not claimed he has these clips larkrake May 2016 #71
I have to go to work now, will check in at midnight to reply larkrake May 2016 #70
He had President Obama's REAL birth certificate too underthematrix May 2016 #76
I've been told that boogymen will get you. riversedge May 2016 #77
I tried to post a quote someone put up that was supposedly from one of her speeches. pdsimdars May 2016 #78
Cool story bro wyldwolf May 2016 #79
I imagine she will use those speeches in GE and there will be nothing to see. As much as you all seabeyond May 2016 #80
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