2016 Postmortem

wallyworld2

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30. Bingo!

Thu May 26, 2016, 03:56 AM

May 2016

No matter how you cut it
That is just how it is.

And there are some fanatics that just won't hear it.

And they make up all sorts of special rules or claims as a way to ignore that simple reality.

These un-elected, selected, Superdelegates have not voted and will not vote until the convention.

Where pledge delegates have actually been voted in to represent a candidate.

I was just kicked out of the Hillary group for saying just that.

They've had enough of democracy I guess.

But primaries are just that, they are not coronations.

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Have people been claiming that Clinton will reach 2383 via pledged delegates alone? [View all] Garrett78 May 2016 OP

The 2383 number is half of all delegates including Super Delegates MohRokTah May 2016 #1

July 26 GreatGazoo May 2016 #7

Nor does Jeff Weaver control the nomination process. Using the now desperate Sanders campaign... George II May 2016 #34

Clinton currently has 1770 of the needed 2328 delegated needed, she will not have the those before.. slipslidingaway May 2016 #20

So what is today's philosophy of how superdelegates should decide on their candidate? George II May 2016 #35

I believe that she needs 615 of the remaining 921 remaining CentralMass May 2016 #2

Bullshit. She will secure the nomination before the polls close in CA on June 7 MohRokTah May 2016 #3

She has 1,768 pledged delegates. She needs 615 more by the convention CentralMass May 2016 #4

She has 2305 total delegates She needs 78 more. MohRokTah May 2016 #5

I state that the super delegate count will not be known until the convention. CentralMass May 2016 #8

And that is a completely false statement. We know for a fact 537 have committed to Hillary. MohRokTah May 2016 #11

I am stating raw numbers and making factual statements. CentralMass May 2016 #14

But stating it is a requirement to have a super majority of pledged delegates os NOT factual MohRokTah May 2016 #17

If Hillary maintains the pledged delegate lead by the end CentralMass May 2016 #24

Sanders must win every remaining primary by 33 points to do that. MohRokTah May 2016 #28

And of course Clinton will maintain the pledged delegate lead. Garrett78 May 2016 #29

There are over 150 super delegates who are not committed and are rightfully waiting for the... slipslidingaway May 2016 #23

Try telling that to the 500+ superdelegates that have made up their mind. You know, since... George II May 2016 #38

THAT IS NOT A FACT. Jesus Christ, how is this so hard to understand... fancypants75 May 2016 #10

BULLSHIT! MohRokTah May 2016 #12

Incorrect Corporate666 May 2016 #18

Bingo! wallyworld2 May 2016 #30

I don't have any problem with people arguing that SDs (or PDs for that matter)... Garrett78 May 2016 #32

People are deluding themselves into thinking.... Corporate666 May 2016 #16

Some would switch if the person they had been supporting failed to win the most pledged delegates. Garrett78 May 2016 #33

That's inaccurate. She will secure the majority of pledged delegates, but not the nomination. morningfog May 2016 #37

As I wrote elsewhere in this thread... Garrett78 May 2016 #40

Hillary needs 256 pledged delegates to clinch the majority of pledged delegates--2026. LuvLoogie May 2016 #6

She currently has 1 768 pledged delegates. She needs 615 more. CentralMass May 2016 #9

2383 includes Super Delegates, so you left out 537 delegates. MohRokTah May 2016 #13

If you are equating this to the 2008 primary Senator Obama CentralMass May 2016 #22

BULLSHIT!!!!! MohRokTah May 2016 #25

Obama was literally never trailing Clinton after SC Recursion May 2016 #27

Yes, and it's all but a guarantee that Clinton will maintain her pledged delegate lead. Garrett78 May 2016 #31

This isn't difficult. The only number that matters is 2026. The candidate with 2026 pledged wins Recursion May 2016 #15

2,383 is the number. CentralMass May 2016 #19

If you go with the 2383 number, you must also go with the 2305 as Hillary's delegate couont MohRokTah May 2016 #21

No, it's just not. The superdelegates will not overturn the majority of the pledged delegates Recursion May 2016 #26

No. Lots of people, though, have been claiming MineralMan May 2016 #36

Agreed. I'm left wondering why folks are assembling an army of straw men. Garrett78 May 2016 #39