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2016 Postmortem

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Time for change

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Fri May 27, 2016, 07:45 PM May 2016

The Less Noted and Discussed Aspect of the Clinton E-mail Scandal [View all]

The bulk of attention in the Clinton e-mail scandal focuses on breaches of national security – which I won’t talk about here. But there’s another aspect to it that some people may find to be more important and darker than her breaches of national security: Her attempt to hide her federal business from the relevant federal agencies and the American people. The relevant part of federal law violated by this attempt is in the IG report:

Secretary Clinton should have preserved any Federal records she created and received on her personal account, by printing and filing those records with the related files in the Office of the Secretary. At a minimum, Secretary Clinton should have surrendered all emails dealing with Department business before leaving government service.


In fact, among the “personal” Clinton e-mails discovered by the IG, one contains an apparent admission that a major reason for her decision to set up a private e-mail server for the conduct of government business was to prevent “access” to it by federal officials or anyone else, as noted by the Washington Examiner. The Examiner discusses this aspect of the scandal and sums it up by saying:

But the classified information discussion may be a distraction from a more important issue: Clinton's inappropriate secrecy, keeping her emails outside the reach of federal officials and outside the reach of public-records laws. In America the government's business is the people's business — but Hillary Clinton wanted the American people out of her business.


What might Clinton have wanted to keep away from the federal authorities and the public?

One possibility would be that she was afraid that it might shed light on reports of corruption involving the Clinton Foundation. Another article by the Examiner notes:

Thousands of emails made public by the State Department between May of last year and Friday indicate donors to the Clinton Foundation were often given personal meetings, generous contracts or special consideration that was seemingly not afforded to the same number of private groups that had not written checks to the charity.


Or maybe they involve her central involvement with the disastrous Libyan War, which Clinton played a central role in creating, which helped ISIS and other terrorist groups gain power, and which Clinton has never even acknowledged as a mistake.

Or perhaps it would show something about her $225,000 speeches to Wall Street. There are federal laws against candidates for high federal offices receiving money for personal use from powerful interests, and with good reason. Large sums of money from powerful interest groups that are regulated by the federal government might cause a new U.S. President or other public official to favor those powerful interests over their other constituents. (In my opinion, there should be similar prohibitions against campaign contributions from powerful interest groups, for the same reason, but that’s another issue, since unfortunately those bribes are legal). Clinton claims that her speeches to Wall Street which earned her such huge sums of money were made before she became a candidate for President. But her e-mails could show that she was running long before she announced it publicly, in which case the pay she received for some or many of her Wall Street speeches would be illegal.

The Examiner sums up the problem with Clinton’s lack of transparency:

Transparency is essential to a functional democracy. Congress and various arms of the executive branch have created rules to bring about that transparency. Hillary Clinton broke those rules, in keeping with her career of antipathy for transparency. This antipathy to a core value is disqualifying in a presidential candidate. It's also a trait she shares with presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump, who has refused to release his tax returns, as presidential candidates traditionally do….. Democracy needs sunshine in order to flourish. America is in for four years of darkness.


I think it would have been better if the Examiner had changed its last sentence to read: “America is in for four years of darkness IF Trump and Clinton receive their Party’s nomination and are the only viable contenders in the November Presidential Election.” In other words, I think that if the Democratic Party goes through with its long intended coronation it will not only be committing political suicide but worse yet, it will be perpetrating a great disservice upon the American people.

It would be like if Richard Nixon, at the height of the Watergate scandal, rather than resigning the Presidency, had announced his intention to run for another term (He couldn’t have done that because he was in his second term at the time of his resignation, but this is just a hypothetical analogy). At least when Nixon resigned he had the privilege of having a successor who he approved of. If Clinton is the Democratic nominee she won’t have that option – assuming that she disapproves of a Trump Presidency.
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The private server was set up in 2002 annavictorious May 2016 #1
It doesn't matter when it was set up Time for change May 2016 #4
Can you provide a link to that? Cooley Hurd May 2016 #5
I don't think your info is quite correct. Wilms May 2016 #7
say what? grasswire May 2016 #29
Bullshit. /nt Marr May 2016 #33
So after reading all that nonsense ... you are saying ... she wanted her personal emails to ... JoePhilly May 2016 #2
I'm not talking about her personal e-mails Time for change May 2016 #6
How about trying to put words in the OP's mouth? This has nothing to do rhett o rick May 2016 #8
You make an excellent point (eom) Samantha May 2016 #24
You guys keep making allegations ... but you also keep coming up short on PROOF. JoePhilly May 2016 #36
Hear, hear!!!! LAS14 May 2016 #13
when she says "personal" she means "Foundation" grasswire May 2016 #31
"Foundation" is also not "Government" sparky. JoePhilly May 2016 #34
Unfortunately... grasswire May 2016 #35
Your fishing expedition has fallen short in one body of water ... so you now loook for new ... JoePhilly May 2016 #38
Would you consider emails from Sydney Blumenthal yodermon May 2016 #44
Bingo EndElectoral May 2016 #46
OPs for grownups. Another thoughtful, well reasoned post. Well done! RufusTFirefly May 2016 #3
Thanks TFC. rhett o rick May 2016 #9
Well done analysis! Kick. Rec. Thank you! IdaBriggs May 2016 #10
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #11
Transparency is essential to a functional democracy.... KoKo May 2016 #12
FOIA end-around Octafish May 2016 #51
K&R jwirr May 2016 #14
Who is Justin Cooper? Bill's Personal Aide and the Server in Chappaqua KoKo May 2016 #15
More early Justin Cooper Background News from New York Times KoKo May 2016 #52
access to her private emails. The report is being misconstrued by some, ON PURPOSE MAYBE? BootinUp May 2016 #16
If you think that this is about personal e-mails Time for change May 2016 #17
This isn't that complicated. The Examiner takes it out of context and then spins it BootinUp May 2016 #18
A lot of the e-mails that have come to light and are still coming to light Time for change May 2016 #19
Let us know when a something shocking she didn't want released is found would'ya? BootinUp May 2016 #20
Her compromise of national security isn't shocking enough for you? Time for change May 2016 #21
From what I have read attempts to hack it failed, sounds secure. nt BootinUp May 2016 #22
Nobody knows to what extent it was hacked. Time for change May 2016 #47
No, no, no BootinUp May 2016 #48
"Hillary's e-mail Recklessness Compromised our National Security" Time for change May 2016 #49
Ptui! I don't need any RW articles today, thanks anyways. nt BootinUp May 2016 #50
State's inspector general found that Clinton compromised national security Time for change May 2016 #53
Knock yourself out. Don't get too sucked in by RW spin though. nt BootinUp May 2016 #54
The requests for informaton under FOIA went to the State Department Samantha May 2016 #25
And the witch hunt will fail again. nt BootinUp May 2016 #28
Thank you kr. PufPuf23 May 2016 #23
And if she is elected my God what will she do with the information her and Billy get bkkyosemite May 2016 #26
Thank you for this excellent thread Samantha May 2016 #27
kick! Segami May 2016 #30
Excellent post! Devastating evidence against HRC; she's finished! amborin May 2016 #32
She failed in her duties to the American people. azmom May 2016 #37
K & R lmbradford May 2016 #39
"Just hit 'delete' 30,000 times" John Poet May 2016 #40
K&R emsimon33 May 2016 #41
So which countries, which wealthy people, have enough to blackmail her? Scuba May 2016 #42
There is more to it than this quaker bill May 2016 #43
Great point! dragonlady May 2016 #55
Another excellent analysis by TFC! Melissa G May 2016 #45
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