The thing with fracking is that they have somehow gotten an okay from govt to have non-disclosure (Reply #38)

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Tue May 31, 2016, 02:19 PM

cui bono (19,926 posts)

38. The thing with fracking is that they have somehow gotten an okay from govt to have non-disclosure

laws regarding their proprietary methods, effectively shutting out any attempt at regulation or lawsuits. We all know they are polluting our ground water with chemicals. So really, I'm not buying that it's cleaner than coal.

And, not taken into consideration when talking "clean" energy is the fact that fracking is causing earthquakes in areas where there once were virtually none.

Now, I'm not for coal either, for environmental reasons as well as worker safety reasons, but I don't see where fracking is any better. For anyone to decide fracking is fine instead of rejecting it and pushing for actual clean energy solutions which exist and are extremely viable is not an environmental stance, no matter who takes it.

ETA: GRhodes has an excellent post that covers things I missed, such as the environmental cost to create the things necessary for fracking:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2093997

Also, see my post about why Hillary is for fracking:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2095399

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50 replies	Author	Time	Post
Major environmental group makes first ever endorsement of Hillary Clinton [View all]	Henhouse	May 2016	OP
Wow at least 2 huges ones back to back (UAW was great as well)	Amimnoch	May 2016	#1
Wow! How they explain her fracking?	peace13	May 2016	#2
Guess they haven't heard of this newfangled thing called 'fracking'.	cui bono	May 2016	#3
They understand that natural gas is cleaner than coal. Berners seem oblivious to that fact.	YouDig	May 2016	#19
Message auto-removed	Name removed	May 2016	#20
Cleaner than coal. Look up the suffix "-er".	YouDig	May 2016	#21
The Sandroids were brought into the fold with all sorts of lofty promises,	anotherproletariat	May 2016	#27
mmkay...	cui bono	May 2016	#22
Wonderful! Thank you!	Lucinda	May 2016	#4
Nice....	LenaBaby61	May 2016	#5
Maybe they figure we can save energy by lighting our fracked water at night.	Vinca	May 2016	#6
Endorsements do not mean a lot, but this one is especially good. Nt	seabeyond	May 2016	#7
Excellent endorsement. To all those complaining about fracking	auntpurl	May 2016	#8
Yes, and +1000 for explaining the context	Hortensis	May 2016	#10
She says one thing and does another	pinebox	May 2016	#17
You are way off, sorry	GRhodes	May 2016	#28
Thank you for going into such detail. Excellent post!	cui bono	May 2016	#48
Clean water is a huge issue!	peace13	May 2016	#29
The Colombia Free Trade legislation supports continued use of coal and	PufPuf23	May 2016	#30
Note that Plan Colombia - part of neo-con plan for global dominance -	PufPuf23	May 2016	#34
How does the increase in use of cheap Colombian coal in the USA and northern Europe relate	PufPuf23	May 2016	#36
This is yet another false choice, just like the social vs. economic justice was a false choice	cui bono	May 2016	#44
Under the bus NRDC, you bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!	Darb	May 2016	#9
Regarding fracking..the NRDC's position is nuanced and certainly not in-line with Bernie's ban it.	DCBob	May 2016	#11
"more harm than good"	reddread	May 2016	#12
"unless you place a value on clean water."	DCBob	May 2016	#13
there is no either or, they are the treasure of the commons	reddread	May 2016	#14
Apparently the NRDC can see it the way I, Hillary and others see it.	DCBob	May 2016	#15
apparently	reddread	May 2016	#16
Good post.	auntpurl	May 2016	#18
I wish people	GRhodes	May 2016	#31
That's nonsense. It doesn't do more harm than solar or wind.	cui bono	May 2016	#24
I am not "okay" with fracking..	DCBob	May 2016	#33
The thing with fracking is that they have somehow gotten an okay from govt to have non-disclosure	cui bono	May 2016	#38
K & R!	kstewart33	May 2016	#23
Based on history, I would expect Hillary Clinton to be a weak environmental POTUS.	PufPuf23	May 2016	#25
Another cause against its cause.	mmonk	May 2016	#26
Fracking abroad, big oil donors to Clinton Foundation, supported off shore drilling and Keystone	EndElectoral	May 2016	#32
K & R	LAS14	May 2016	#35
This message was self-deleted by its author	cyberpj	May 2016	#37
A very clear and notable distinction	Carolina	May 2016	#43
I was wondering about that but it was too late to look it up before work.	cui bono	May 2016	#45
Awesome!	workinclasszero	May 2016	#39
The best way to protect natural resources is to frack the shit out of them	QC	May 2016	#40
K&R	Carolina	May 2016	#42
Dear Californians	Carolina	May 2016	#41
Schwartzenegger for President!!!	cui bono	May 2016	#46
LOL	Carolina	May 2016	#47
Under the bus you go, folks. Along with all the other fracking supporters. Environmentalists? Sure.	mikehiggins	May 2016	#49
interesting.	Bill USA	May 2016	#50

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