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JDPriestly

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16. I think that thousands and thousands of jobs have been moved to Mexico under the
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:14 AM
Jun 2016

NAFTA agreement.

Most recently, Carrier air conditioning company offered its workers only $5.25 per hour in exchange for Carrier staying in the US.

These trade agreements overall are a bad deal for the US.

Sorry, but for somebody like this who remembers what life was like in the US before the trade agreements (born 1943), I know they are a horrible deal.

Used to be we girls learned to sew in junior high school. I sew a lot. The clothes we get as imports are cheap in every way. The seams are nearly nonexistent. They are made of flimsy, cheap fabric. They are in short, just awful.

When I go to clothing stores, I am reminded of the quality of clothing that I used to see in the clothes in the Communist bloc when I was traveling in the 1960s through 1980s.

We were really good at making things. With the exception of Germany, most of the people in other countries who make the cheap stuff that average Americans can afford and that are imported suck at making things.

Enough said.

I will repeat this story until I am blue in the face. I bought a used Maytag washer in 1985. I raised two children with it. I still use it. It is in great condition. It was made in America.

New washers made in other countries do not last like that.

When I had to buy a new, imported dryer, I was told I could expect it to last two-three years.

We are importing junk and exporting our dollars in exchange.

We have a terrible trade deficit.

The trade agreements hurt, have hurt and will hurt our domestic economy. They also conflict with our Constitution.

I oppose the trade agreements. I do not oppose trade. But I oppose trade that destroys our domestic economy, foists junk into our households, transfers our jobs to other countries and overall are just bad for America.

Worst of all, we think we are buying friends with these trade agreements. We aren't. We are buying contempt.

And then, of course, our balance of payments deficit will come back to bite us. It is debt and it is just a matter of time until we regret it.

No to these trade agreements. They aren't good for America.

first of all these so called trade agreements have very little to do with trade hollysmom May 2016 #1
ditto Hollys mom larkrake May 2016 #2
So, if Your Concern Is Human Rights Suffering Under Trade, What About Cuba? TomCADem May 2016 #3
Your assumptions are false. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #17
+10000 Armstead Jun 2016 #21
"What do folks think would happen if those agreements were cancelled?" Thank you Recursion May 2016 #4
I think that thousands and thousands of jobs have been moved to Mexico under the JDPriestly Jun 2016 #16
The Free Trade Agreements are complex, full of nuance, and favor trans-national corporations. PufPuf23 May 2016 #5
The Colombia Free Trade legislation supports continued use of coal and PufPuf23 May 2016 #7
What exactly is "Free trade" versus "Fair trade?" EndElectoral May 2016 #8
Free trade and fair trade defined PufPuf23 May 2016 #10
Isn't Bernie Proposing To Impose Tariffs on Goods from Developing Countries? TomCADem Jun 2016 #11
Smoot Hartley is a red herring and omits nearly 50 years of a successful history under GATT PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #12
Good post. Good analysis. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #14
Thank you. Some days wonder if it is worth the effort. alas. eom PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #18
Why does Bernie's Tariff Work as Opposed to Smoot Hawley? TomCADem Jun 2016 #20
I suspect anything you don't agree with, you just dismiss as "jargon" Armstead Jun 2016 #22
Sorry, I don't have a Ph.D, just trying to understand if yo TomCADem Jun 2016 #23
I didn't write it. Armstead Jun 2016 #24
Sanders is proposing something different than Smoot Hawley. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #29
Personally, I Gravitate Toward Robert Reich's Views On Trade TomCADem Jun 2016 #30
I am in general agreement with Robert Reich. He is a very smart man. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #31
Tariffs are not the problem. It's all the other provisions hidden in these trade agreements JDPriestly Jun 2016 #15
Where did you get that information? Trump is proposing such tariffs, not Bernie who has proposed to pampango Jun 2016 #28
Note that Plan Colombia - part of neo-con plan for global dominance PufPuf23 May 2016 #9
Bernie is for fair trade. As are most progressives. Eom jillan May 2016 #6
What is 'fair'? Does that mean only trading with countries with wages as high as ours? CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #26
Even that would be problematic. Our trade deficit per capita is higher with Germany than with China. pampango Jun 2016 #27
Trade is OK. But trade disputes should be settled in courts under national control JDPriestly Jun 2016 #13
FDR knew that, to be fair, trading rules had to be enforced neutrally or they would not work. pampango Jun 2016 #19
More right wing Hillspeak AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #25
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