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passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
74. Thanks for this link
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:32 AM
Jun 2016
drawing from their new book, Democracy for Realists — they argue that the difference between Sanders and Clinton voters lies not in ideology or policy views, but “social identities, symbolic commitments, and partisan loyalties.”

Sanders voters, in short, are not “the vanguard of a new, social democratic–trending Democratic Party,” but chiefly a group of “disaffected white men” and young people drawn to “campaign labels, not policy preferences.”

Of course, this is music to many ears. Nothing would please corporate Democrats and establishment pundits more than if the largest left-wing insurgency in American primary history could be exposed, once and for all, as an accidental combination of confused children and angry white dudes.

An ecstatic Paul Krugman, crowing that Achen and Bartels had laid bare the true essence of the movement, was even inspired to formulate a set of Myers Briggs–style personality types for Sanders voters, in which every shade of fool, narcissist, lunatic, and failure was duly represented.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/06/bernie-sanders-achen-bartels-white-men-krugman-election-clinton/

OK, now I, an old woman who is a Bernie supporter, officially hate Paul Krugman. I've disliked him for some time but this goes beyond the pale of nasty.
This thread should be locked. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #1
Why it's a study. You hate the results? JRLeft Jun 2016 #8
Its a opt in poll belongs on drudge not du MattP Jun 2016 #93
Yep. barrow-wight Jun 2016 #124
LOL no it should get thousands of recs Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #32
It probably will. ucrdem Jun 2016 #36
K&R B Calm Jun 2016 #139
Why? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #60
I know that you would have leapt to make that same post if the study had come out the opposite way. merrily Jun 2016 #76
I too pretend bones and tea-leaves tell us "what would have been," though science giggles at us. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #144
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #121
LOL, it's a study. B Calm Jun 2016 #138
No it's a #BernieStudy. ucrdem Jun 2016 #155
Most racists are supporting Donald Trump because he is one of their own. Hillary and Bernie are not. phleshdef Jun 2016 #2
+1111 Peacetrain Jun 2016 #6
Excellent point. JimDandy Jun 2016 #78
Yep. The millions of black and Hispanic and Asians ones are the worst of the lot Number23 Jun 2016 #3
My first thought, too Haveadream Jun 2016 #11
Apparently they surveyed reddit. ucrdem Jun 2016 #17
DU's demographics are pretty abysmal too. Which explains GDP better than anything anyone could Number23 Jun 2016 #19
Yes it's been eye opening. ucrdem Jun 2016 #20
Did you read the report? JRLeft Jun 2016 #44
What report? You linked to an empty questionnaire. ucrdem Jun 2016 #48
This is the best link I can find, but the study is real passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #82
Why in the world would I read or listen to anything that attempts to portray the supporters of a Number23 Jun 2016 #52
They probably can't see the data because they aren't registered at that site. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #65
It's not "totally normal" to pretend an empty questionnaire contains data except in #BernieScience. ucrdem Jun 2016 #66
yeah right. He linked to the site where you can get the data apparently if you register Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #67
OP links to a YouTube and empty questionnaire. The YouTube has the same link. No data. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #68
Well I guess the questionnaire from the survey. What's wrong with that? Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #69
No data = bogus link to bogus story. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #71
No, you can't see the data unless you register on the site. That's YOUR problem. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #73
the study is real passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #85
No data at that link. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #109
the study is real passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #83
POC can be bigoted just the same. TimPlo Jun 2016 #72
Intolerance/bigotry has been openly displayed here on DU by POC. JimDandy Jun 2016 #81
I'd allege the same as well were the candidate I'm supporting in second place. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #147
EXCEPTIONALLY cool story, Tim. Number23 Jun 2016 #103
It's a guy in his car giving made up numbers. No data has been provided. #BernieScience. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #108
Signup JRLeft Jun 2016 #116
No data = bogus link to bogus story. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #126
Just because you personally don't have access to it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #150
. ucrdem Jun 2016 #152
Get an account and log into it if you're so concerned. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #153
LOL. You're not taking this very well. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #154
On the contrary I couldn't care less. You're the one obsessed with "debunking" an academic study Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #157
. . . that only exists in your imagination. ucrdem Jun 2016 #158
Oh Lordy.. Peacetrain Jun 2016 #4
I just looked at this study, and looked up the source. Everyone should read this. Exilednight Jun 2016 #5
Who said Sanders supporters were more racist? UMTerp01 Jun 2016 #7
I felt the same way about white Hillary supporters, lecturing me about Hillary. JRLeft Jun 2016 #9
As you should!!!! UMTerp01 Jun 2016 #22
I get that. bravenak Jun 2016 #134
On the first day that he announced his campaign in his home state, the narrative was written... Luminous Animal Jun 2016 #28
Despicable UMTerp01 Jun 2016 #31
It was a whole image, a major negative branding campaign. Just awful. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #99
Lol Ohioblue22 Jun 2016 #10
"pilot survey of 1,200 individuals online opted in" ucrdem Jun 2016 #12
The study is legit, but it doesn't fit your narrative so throw it out right? JRLeft Jun 2016 #15
There isn't a study. There's a youtube somebody made in their car. ucrdem Jun 2016 #18
Nope, you are wrong passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #87
No "opt in" online study is legit. But it fits your narrative so you believe it. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #24
+1, some of them are still in anger stage uponit7771 Jun 2016 #26
The study is real. Watch the video if you don't want to sign up. JRLeft Jun 2016 #100
The video is a guy in a car talking to his laptop. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #128
No its not, some dude sitting in is car with an online poll... yaw desperate no? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #133
You didn't read it, and it's not his poll. You hate the results so you decided to ignore it. JRLeft Jun 2016 #137
Appropriate thread? Seriously? BootinUp Jun 2016 #13
Duh. Anyone who follows the Clinton vs. Sanders wars on Twitter would know this Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #14
No problem. JRLeft Jun 2016 #16
What lines? ucrdem Jun 2016 #21
I don't need a survey to know that. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #23
This is garbage! hrmjustin Jun 2016 #25
It is indeed. There's no such study. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #27
If you are going to spam this thread with your insistence that the study is fake passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #88
No data there, either. More #BernieScience. Did you think I wouldn't check? ucrdem Jun 2016 #107
You are unbelievable. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #123
There's no evidence of data, no link to it, no HINT of it. Just a guy in a car and his webcam. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #125
I"m not talking about the video link passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #129
There's no data at that link. No data = bogus story. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #130
Now I know you are trolling passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #132
You probably meant to say, "These are not the droids you're looking for." merrily Jun 2016 #102
That is the second one nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #29
My response - CORNEL WEST underthematrix Jun 2016 #30
Come on MFM008 Jun 2016 #33
It's baloney. There's no such survey, just an empty questionnaire and a guy in his car. ucrdem Jun 2016 #34
So you didn't read the report. JRLeft Jun 2016 #47
There isn't any report. You linked to an empty questionnaire. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #49
the study is real passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #89
Bullshit. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #35
Most racists do not like being named. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #37
Ask yourself, who would make such a video and then try to pass it off as legit? ucrdem Jun 2016 #40
I read the accompanying link. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #42
The link goes to an empty questionnaire. There's no data, just a guy in his car. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #45
In the questionnaire is this: guillaumeb Jun 2016 #51
There's nothing to validate. There's no data. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #54
That is a question for the poster. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #56
I've searched the ANES site and can't find any such report there either. ucrdem Jun 2016 #57
I agree with you that it is posted constantly. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #58
It's up to the OP. Now that he or she knows they can either leave it or nuke it. ucrdem Jun 2016 #59
Here you go again passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #92
You keep posting a bogus link. No data, no study, no article. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #114
register JRLeft Jun 2016 #143
Someone who is telling the truth? passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #91
I have to call bullshit on this gollygee Jun 2016 #38
Hillary's group is more diverse than BS's.. dubyadiprecession Jun 2016 #39
Well if it were an opt in survey gollygee Jun 2016 #41
He's right passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #43
This is the kind of sleaze that right wingers bring into du MattP Jun 2016 #46
Just because you don't like the results you want it trashed. I'm black I know there is a lot of JRLeft Jun 2016 #50
There are no results. That's what people are objecting to. It's bogus #BernieNews. ucrdem Jun 2016 #53
"To view the links to the data files for each study, you must register and agree to our terms Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #63
A log-on link is not data. And neither the OP nor YouTube link to it anyway. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #70
Here is some info on the study...just for you passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #95
You've posted that link ten times but it's not a study or data set. Post the survey results. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #120
No data = bogus link to bogus story. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #112
You're being intellectually dishonest. I've shown you the link to the study data Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #115
A log-in page is not a study or data set. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #117
I can see why you're voting for Hillary Clinton Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #118
Because I'm not a sucker or because she won't put up with bullshit? ucrdem Jun 2016 #127
This is not a link to the data passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #94
I implore you to take this down. Its disgusting and without merit. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #55
What a pantsload. zappaman Jun 2016 #61
More on this here... Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #62
Thanks for this link passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #74
Another great thought from the link passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #75
and this just has to be said loud and clear passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #77
You linked to a You Tube video and blank survey form Generic Brad Jun 2016 #64
Here is a link to the study passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #96
Yes, the study is real passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #79
I went to that site once. And It was one time too many. BootinUp Jun 2016 #90
You mean like if a candiate made the statement like TimPlo Jun 2016 #104
Yeah, I've seen the quote. Whenever a politician brings up race, its BootinUp Jun 2016 #105
Sure it does. Yep, Bhaskar Sunkara, inspired by the Black Jacobins in Haiti has a soft spot Luminous Animal Jun 2016 #159
So far no one including the OP has provided an actual study or data set. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #111
There are plenty of links up the thread yet you keep repeating the same crap. JRLeft Jun 2016 #119
LOL, they're all the same bogus links. No one has posted any actual data. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #122
David Brock is the one who claimed Michelle Obama said whitey jfern Jun 2016 #80
Opt in internet panel MattP Jun 2016 #84
Sounds about as legit as a Drudge opt in poll MattP Jun 2016 #86
This is why many of you will be purged, you will not stop bashing our nominee nt. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #97
This is what we have to look forward to for the next 2 weeks. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #98
How about for the last eight years?? ucrdem Jun 2016 #131
Of course. Its been dreadful. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #142
True that Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #167
I coulda told you this easy enough Scootaloo Jun 2016 #101
man, the denials here by Clinton supporters is bbgrunt Jun 2016 #106
Exactly, I can't count how many race baiting posts I've seen from Hill supporters B Calm Jun 2016 #140
Sanders campaign in miniature: deceptive claims defended by true believers. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #113
There are far more racists among Hilary supporters ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #135
#BernieStudies (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #136
This is a non-partisan election study passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #160
It's not even a "study", partisan or otherwise. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #161
I would have called it a survey, passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #163
Nope, not a "survey" either (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #165
Not playin, passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #166
What a shame you would post this....nt asuhornets Jun 2016 #141
Bwahaha... B Calm Jun 2016 #145
I would venture to guess that would be a given. NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #146
It looks like Ford Fairlane got his video taken down. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #148
What did Hillary supporters post porn on his site until it got removed? Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #149
Don't let Tink die! ucrdem Jun 2016 #151
The PDF isn't a study, it's a template for an interview. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #156
Don't be ridiculous. It's a serious, peer-reviewed study conducted by a respectable academic, Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #162
That report showed both Bernie and Hillary supporters are racist. Spacedog1973 Jun 2016 #164
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