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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
20. and Hillary was barking and sneering..
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:44 AM
Jun 2016

..which is why her favorable ratings are so very poor, and Bernie's are so very high.

To save the party from its own suicide. nt Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #1
That is your definition of Democracy? LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #3
so you and the bern would substitute your opinion Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #34
so you know best...people who vote are too stupid to be allowed to choose a nominee? Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #57
When it comes to the democratic party, there is a fight for the soul of the party Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #81
increasing the government size by 50% and the government controlling 40% of GDP is suicide. BlueStateLib Jun 2016 #79
Mostly because the party created a very non-democratic mechanism with super delegates . aikoaiko Jun 2016 #2
Hillary's superdelegate support is not why Bernie is losing/will lose/has lost. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #10
I understand but we will never know how much influence 400+ SDs declaring for HRC aikoaiko Jun 2016 #17
Most of the public don't even know that unpledged delegates declared for anyone. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #61
Lol. nt Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #77
Hillary "won" with the help and dirty tricks from the Dem. Establishment, DNC's DWS, as Cal33 Jun 2016 #56
How did the Democratic Party prevent Sanders' name from being in the public? LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #63
An example: Have you already forgotten how Debbie Wasserman Schultz rigged the Cal33 Jun 2016 #80
Take away the superdelegates and Clinton still wins, though. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #11
I agree , but in theory any and all the SDs who declared for HRC could vote differently aikoaiko Jun 2016 #18
Pledged delegates aren't bound either, but nobody argues that they'll switch. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #33
Because they are pledged and that expectation matters I think. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #36
They can switch, though, which I'm not sure everyone realizes. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #40
Yes. It's true. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #42
NO they were not Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #38
How is it undemocratic? LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #60
The Super delegates were lined up by the Hillary campaign before the campaign started. -none Jun 2016 #74
The point of gathering a yuuge crowd (thanks!) is to remind everyone there that we're still here. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #4
What we want is democracy. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #7
Didn't work out that way in 2008, remember? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #9
Well, only because of disputed primaries (in MI and FL). Garrett78 Jun 2016 #37
Obama had the most delegates and Clinton was much closer to him than Bernie is to her. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #41
This Is Simple Meteor Man Jun 2016 #5
yeah, we're mad grasswire Jun 2016 #6
Your candidate was not that great in the debates. Remember the anger, red face and pointing? anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #12
Remember the "anger, red face and pointing?" Yes I do GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #19
and Hillary was barking and sneering.. grasswire Jun 2016 #20
If you didn't know better, you'd think "another angry white man" kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #69
right protesting those who are with you 90% of the time while giving a free pass to a candidate who Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #43
at this point in time I am not either The Party has made itself very clear azurnoir Jun 2016 #8
The choice is not binary Meteor Man Jun 2016 #13
I was merely echoing The Party not giving an opinion other than my title line azurnoir Jun 2016 #14
All of those "choices" you listed are a de facto vote for Trump. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #15
the DNC would be following its own rules. grasswire Jun 2016 #21
No they are not. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #23
but Hillary said... grasswire Jun 2016 #24
and she lost...as she should have...consider the supers like her and she lost Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #47
No Meteor Man Jun 2016 #25
I f you don't vote or vote for the green traitors Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #48
No, it's a net zero pinebox Jun 2016 #67
Why is it always Sanders supporters threatening going to the Green party or to write-in? brush Jun 2016 #59
The most vocal are Indies...they have no party loyalty anyway Sheepshank Jun 2016 #65
Two wrongs don't make a right. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #16
But Hillary said... grasswire Jun 2016 #22
So you think Hillary is right about that? oberliner Jun 2016 #49
Obama didn't have the majority of pledged delegates in 2008 and they called it for him. joshcryer Jun 2016 #27
The media shouldn't call it for any candidate before Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #28
You know how dumb it would be if they didn't call it for Clinton... joshcryer Jun 2016 #30
Chris Matthews said he expects MSNBC Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #31
That will cause bandwagoning more likely. joshcryer Jun 2016 #32
So if she got to the number in NY, you don't call the nomination until June, to not suppress CA? CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #55
The media should call it when someone has the majority of Pledged Delegates Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #71
They're doing it the way they always do. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #72
Well. The popular vote is Jive...it doesn't matter Jack Bone Jun 2016 #26
It's not and everybody knows it bravenak Jun 2016 #29
I think, the ego that truly cannot handle a loss to women, has to face his loss, needs mass of seabeyond Jun 2016 #35
It won't happen. Regardless of whatever a desperate Sanders campaign sufrommich Jun 2016 #39
They see themselves as special. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #44
Tell me how stacking the deck is "democracy" hobbit709 Jun 2016 #45
Tell me Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #50
Obama has worse odd than Bernie Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #52
Can you show us evidence that Bernie would lose a GE? pinebox Jun 2016 #68
When the presumptive candidate has a record of failing to PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #46
She won. People don't agree with you this is why we have primaries Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #51
I would go as far as to use the term totalitarianism PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #78
They had representation. The primary, remember it? JoePhilly Jun 2016 #54
I backed into Sanders as the only even remore possible alternative to Hillary Clinton PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #75
"Democracy" is not necessarily a free Democracy. PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #53
Because Democracy is at stake bkkyosemite Jun 2016 #58
Bernie is loser...and can't accept defeat like a man beachbum bob Jun 2016 #62
Because some people "know better" than the general population. MineralMan Jun 2016 #64
I agree, it's not. So let's get rid of superdelegates altogether. Agreed? Bread and Circus Jun 2016 #66
Nominations aren't decided by superdelegates. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #70
The Democratic primary process isn't democratic in any real sense... davidlynch Jun 2016 #73
This is a bit premature, Hillary hasn't lost yet. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #76
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