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2016 Postmortem

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Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:20 PM Jun 2016


Amended -- The media not just Comcast. I was out earlier and came home and turned on the TV and they were talkiung about NBC calling it. So a pox on all their houses.

Godamn fucking Big Corporate Media has crossed over the line. Democracy is officially DEAD as a FUCKING DOOR NAIL. We are now the United States of Corporations.

Comcast -- who own NBC and Universal Studios and is trying to take over our entire national information infrastructure-- has decided that Clinton has won it. They have decided to undermine the electoral system.

By "coincidence" Comcast is sponsoring the Democratic National Convention


Maybe Clinton has won it for real. But that is not the godamn point.

They could not wait a godamn night until the fucking people of California have had a chance to vote?

We no longer live in a democracy.

Enjoy your Official Oligarchy. Revel in the ILLUSION OF CHOICE that the Democratic Party has been complicit in creating.
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Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #1
I might. Armstead Jun 2016 #4
Comcast did not release the data. It was the AP. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #2
They suck too. Armstead Jun 2016 #3
Actually it was the Associated Press who called it Greywing Jun 2016 #5
They all suck. It is disgraceful. Armstead Jun 2016 #7
It is actually undemocratic, IMHO. Duval Jun 2016 #76
Should the media have kept secret the results of all the primaries/caucuses going way back... George II Jun 2016 #167
Reporters report. It's always a horse race to get the latest info out there. randome Jun 2016 #6
It IS a big deal. Armstead Jun 2016 #12
Presumptive nominee is NOT a subjective opinion. It's based on math. randome Jun 2016 #149
Don't you mean presumptuous nominee? KPN Jun 2016 #157
That's getting old really quick. randome Jun 2016 #159
Is it? Sorry -- I hadn't seen it before. Had I, I would not KPN Jun 2016 #163
Seriously... democracy is DEAD!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #154
Yeah, and every year it gets worse. They break the rules and don't care. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #80
What First Amendment rules are they breaking? randome Jun 2016 #116
Anyone who doesn't see that the Democratic Party is rigged either KPN Jun 2016 #156
It's a big damned deal for those people babylonsister Jun 2016 #146
It would not have affected my determination to go to a polling place and vote. randome Jun 2016 #150
AP isn't Comcast. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #8
They all suck. Armstead Jun 2016 #13
Yes!! GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #98
Why did the CA Dem Party choose to have their primary last, and make their voters irrelevant? tritsofme Jun 2016 #9
Some state (states) have to be last unless it is simultaneous. Armstead Jun 2016 #14
Someone has to be last, it didn't have to be California tritsofme Jun 2016 #29
Its designed to lower campaign cost Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #43
and I suspect if one state changes their primary, states that have been upended, will then move still_one Jun 2016 #35
Parties don't decide when to hold their primaries unless that is an option by state law. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #40
California's primary also decides city, county, and state office primaries. It is a big deal. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #129
Yep! So any reduced voter return would be those that really aren't interested in their government. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #133
they aren't irrelevant treestar Jun 2016 #147
Um. Isn't it their job to call it when it's clinched? Skinner Jun 2016 #10
Super Delegates aren't committed until the convention. nt retrowire Jun 2016 #15
Everyone knows that. randome Jun 2016 #19
Like the electoral college is not tied to the votes? Generic Brad Jun 2016 #99
A statement is an argument? WELL ILL BE DAMNED LOL nt retrowire Jun 2016 #103
The statement also reflects wishful thinking Generic Brad Jun 2016 #105
Agreed. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #16
Common sense is noting more than a conspiracy dammit! bettyellen Jun 2016 #18
I guess the process no longer matters. Armstead Jun 2016 #23
Enough of the insults. We both understood this would be he result tomorrow, like it or not. bettyellen Jun 2016 #26
If there is a similar cock up to favor the GOP in November then... Armstead Jun 2016 #44
The GE is a whole different process and impossible to call a day before.... bettyellen Jun 2016 #53
Remember 2000? Armstead Jun 2016 #59
I remember a lot of "lefty" idiots saying Gore= Bush for six months, YES I DO. And the USSC.... bettyellen Jun 2016 #62
I am not talking about that and you damn well know it Armstead Jun 2016 #64
He was a dumbass not to get the state recounted. And for not letting Clinton stump for him.... bettyellen Jun 2016 #65
Just toss the Nader kitchen sink Armstead Jun 2016 #70
Nope. What I actually do hate, is letting Bush or Trump into office. Especially feeding voters fake bettyellen Jun 2016 #74
I don't dwell in indictments...Comcast really is sponsoring the democratic convention.... Armstead Jun 2016 #82
You want people to respect your opinions, stop calling them horrible names? What is so fucking hard bettyellen Jun 2016 #88
People can respect my opinions or not. I'm pissed. Like REALLY pissed... Armstead Jun 2016 #91
I bet anything you'd be thrilled if they called it for SBS a day early. If I have learned one thing bettyellen Jun 2016 #96
There are many factors involved Armstead Jun 2016 #100
If Sanders was ahead he'd be leaving HRC in the dust, debating Trump already bettyellen Jun 2016 #120
Whatever....To quote Rhett Butler... Armstead Jun 2016 #123
all those enthusiastic young people would be having to work many years to see much progress.... bettyellen Jun 2016 #134
That's not a reason to deliberately surpress their engagement Armstead Jun 2016 #135
This ALWAYS happens to the last states in the primary. ALWAYS. Why sugarcoat this shit for new bettyellen Jun 2016 #136
This message was self-deleted by its author KPN Jun 2016 #160
Well said! KPN Jun 2016 #164
And I remember 308,000 Florida Democrats voting Bush. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #153
I think the process does matter Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #47
Don't call me Republican. Skinner Jun 2016 #22
I thought better of that and changed it before I saw your response Armstead Jun 2016 #25
You might also consider removing it from your post above. Skinner Jun 2016 #30
You might want to consider how you are treating others too. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #87
I do need to calm down I'll admit....But I am reallly angry.... Armstead Jun 2016 #113
There's always the possibility that somebody will win before all states have voted. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #97
Strange that some would suggest the media should not report facts. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #48
she doesn't have the pledged delegates dana_b Jun 2016 #58
The problem is... Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #83
Oh, good lord. nt antigop Jun 2016 #122
The timing is suspect ... and breeds distrust. Is that good? KPN Jun 2016 #158
Elitist news organizations should temporarily suppress stories from the unwashed masses Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #11
There used to be some standards as to when it is responsible to make such determinations Armstead Jun 2016 #28
I'm fine with news stories not being witheld from the public Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #46
When one candidate has 2383 or more delegates they win. Even if some states haven't voted yet. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #104
Hyperbole, although I wish AP had waited ecstatic Jun 2016 #17
It won't in California. We have other offices, propositions, and local initiatives. still_one Jun 2016 #41
That is a big difference compared to holding a primary just for President. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #52
Besides that, both Clinton and Sanders want their supporters to come out and vote, if for nothing still_one Jun 2016 #95
Fuck Comcast. icecreamfan Jun 2016 #20
sounds like you're not so happy with the media for doing their jobs onenote Jun 2016 #24
So their job is to determine elections now? Armstead Jun 2016 #31
Were you upset when they "determined" the election for Obama? Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #34
Reporting and establishing an "official" final result are not the same thing Armstead Jun 2016 #49
I think the HRC campaign is just as worried about supression, perhaps more so Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #54
"Bernie's lost already. There's no point in standing in line to cast a meaningless vite." Armstead Jun 2016 #61
Obama had won a majority of the pledged delegates n/t JustinL Jun 2016 #75
You say determined. I say reported. onenote Jun 2016 #42
What is sad is that all Clinton supporters cheering this TimPlo Jun 2016 #27
EXACTLY! Armstead Jun 2016 #33
AP called the Republican primary on May 26. Skinner Jun 2016 #39
But tonight they spelled it out with CHEMTRAILS across the sky, Skinner, explain THAT!!! bettyellen Jun 2016 #57
A lot of Republicans were not happy about that.....They still aren't Armstead Jun 2016 #66
Those Republicans were unhappy about the outcome, not about the announcement. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #108
With PLEDGED delegates . . . baran Jun 2016 #127
What we're cheering is our candidate's victory. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #107
Even if AP didn't call, it would be highly unlikely Bernie would get 80 percent bigwillq Jun 2016 #169
They've become quite creative with vote suppression techniques me b zola Jun 2016 #32
It doesn't make a difference KingFlorez Jun 2016 #36
exactly still_one Jun 2016 #45
Bandwagon Effect . TheFarS1de Jun 2016 #117
. Brickbat Jun 2016 #37
Washington DC is the last primary jamese777 Jun 2016 #38
I don't like it either, but they're just reporting facts. YouDig Jun 2016 #50
Pathetic pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #51
A fucking oligarchy is right dana_b Jun 2016 #55
I told everyone MFM008 Jun 2016 #56
I know you are disappointed ... even angry ... But, what does the word "presumptive" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #60
It means it is assumed that she is already the official nominee. Armstead Jun 2016 #63
Would you, if you lived in California or one of the other remaining states ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #69
It is very tempting not to. Why stand in line for hours to do something that makes no difference? Armstead Jun 2016 #73
They could have waited 24 hours. Renew Deal Jun 2016 #67
They could have waited 24 YEARS and it wouldn't have changed one damn thing Number23 Jun 2016 #144
MSNBC loves to rail against voter suppression by the GOP Daniel537 Jun 2016 #68
Calling this "voter suppression" is insane. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #109
They HAVE waited Corporate666 Jun 2016 #71
They couldn't have the decency to allow the voting to proceed without... Armstead Jun 2016 #77
You have to face reality Corporate666 Jun 2016 #81
The thumb has been on the scale since at least 2014 Armstead Jun 2016 #86
you're suffering from confirmation bias Corporate666 Jun 2016 #94
Don't they have to reach a certain magic number???? Seeinghope Jun 2016 #112
Hey, don't be surprised if Skinner calls it tonight passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #72
as a Clinton supporter I find this disrespectful to her campaign geek tragedy Jun 2016 #78
Thank you! Jennylynn Jun 2016 #168
Wow, what a tantrum anigbrowl Jun 2016 #79
We'll see how you feel if something similar happens in November Armstead Jun 2016 #84
That would be tricky since all states vote on the same day in November anigbrowl Jun 2016 #90
There are many to skin a cat and screw up an election Armstead Jun 2016 #92
not over yet CountAllVotes Jun 2016 #85
I don't know why the AP couldn't wait until all votes were counted, Beacool Jun 2016 #89
There is a very large difference between tonight and tomorrow night Armstead Jun 2016 #93
And a winner would've been called tomorrow night BEFORE that primary in the largest state ended. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #114
I think results should always be embargoed until the West Coast has voted Armstead Jun 2016 #118
The 1st Amendment says too bad. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #119
I agree that they should have waited until at least all the votes were counted in the Western states Beacool Jun 2016 #137
Tomorrow night there would still be uncounted votes. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #111
Yes, well, the AP decided to jump the gun. Beacool Jun 2016 #138
Here's an alternate title for your rant: I hate a free press that reports the news as it happens onenote Jun 2016 #101
No kidding gopiscrap Jun 2016 #102
Bernie on the Cover of Time magazine, Again gordyfl Jun 2016 #106
The media is doing their job Hokie Jun 2016 #110
It's not news that could not wait. Armstead Jun 2016 #115
Premature is in the eyes of the beholder Hokie Jun 2016 #121
Yeah, Sanders really fucked up. He should have gone for the parachute option. randome Jun 2016 #124
"We no longer live in a democracy." Sparkly Jun 2016 #125
If you don't care that the media has just negated several primaries...go ahead and laugh Armstead Jun 2016 #126
No, the delegate count did that. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #130
Unbelievable isn't it?!!! n/t baran Jun 2016 #131
They need sponsors RandySF Jun 2016 #128
There's a difference between "deciding" the election and reporting the outcome. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #132
I've googled but can't find it easily.... Lars39 Jun 2016 #139
This is "different." "It's Hillary..." ScreamingMeemie Jun 2016 #140
I know. Lars39 Jun 2016 #141
God damned media reporting facts qdouble Jun 2016 #142
This is... painful. Number23 Jun 2016 #143
Vote vote vote felix_numinous Jun 2016 #145
I really like this OP! I can't help it ... I just do! It's so .... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #148
Voters decided. seabeyond Jun 2016 #151
"We no longer live in a democracy"? She has about 3 million more votes! tonyt53 Jun 2016 #152
IMO what is worse UglyGreed Jun 2016 #155
what's "Russia Today" opinion? stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #161
Now THAT'S funny! :-P NurseJackie Jun 2016 #162
The "media decided our election"? How about the 13 million people who voted for Clinton and..... George II Jun 2016 #165
So does anyone at all wonder why our most conservative MSM media provider is manipulating the Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #166
This is absolutely infuriating. myrna minx Jun 2016 #170
Silly us libodem Jun 2016 #171
If this is how the campaign is run just imagine a Clinton Administration. JEB Jun 2016 #172
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