2016 Postmortem

RDANGELO

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16. I'm for it. Here is why.

Reply to democrattotheend (Original post)

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:29 AM

Jun 2016

In most cases, I would say no; leave her in the senate to be a progressive voice. Here are the reasons for it: Hillary will be almost 70 years old when she takes office, and her health isn't all that great. If she makes it to the office without the e-mail situation blowing up, the Democrats will probably not take the house, and there will be investigations into the server, obstruction of justice for deleting e-mails, and The Clinton Foundation. What this adds up to, is there is a chance she will not finish her first term or not be able to run for a second.
If you look at history, one of the most progressive presidents of his time was Teddy Roosevelt. He became president because he was selected as VP to shut him up. Mckinley was assassinated and he became president.
I believe that the biggest prize that Bernie could attain at the convention is an agreement on the VP.

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POLL: Do we want Elizabeth Warren as Clinton's VP choice (by primary candidate)? [View all] democrattotheend Jun 2016 OP

No (Bernie Supporter) bigwillq Jun 2016 #1

Agree. A senator can get more done than a vice-president. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #5

Like Senate majority leader. Imagine the hell she would bring upon the GOP tonyt53 Jun 2016 #27

There are a lot here who wanted her as SBS's VP choice. Bobby Kennedy can fill Warren's Senate seat. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #40

I didn't want Warren as Bernie's VP either. bigwillq Jun 2016 #41

She needs to stay in senate. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #2

Depends on how close we are to retaking the Senate ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #3

Wouldn't the Republican appointment only be for a few months, until a special election? democrattotheend Jun 2016 #20

I think they have 150 days to call for a special election dlwickham Jun 2016 #26

it's irrelevant to me. It is a ceremonial post. cali Jun 2016 #4

Ceremonial ... ha! :-P NurseJackie Jun 2016 #6

yes, it's largely ceremonial. What precisely has Joe Biden done? cali Jun 2016 #9

You haven't been paying attention to Joe, I see. Or ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #11

So you can't name a thing. No surprise cali Jun 2016 #15

I was going to say it's ceremonial with a young pres like Obama, but then JFK... yurbud Jun 2016 #23

The fact it is a ceremonial post should make it highly relevant to you. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #13

It will be tough to call Bernie fringe after this primary cycle. yurbud Jun 2016 #25

What that we do here *is* relevant jack_krass Jun 2016 #28

Not sure Dem2 Jun 2016 #7

Same democrattotheend Jun 2016 #21

I fully support this. Double down. Do it. betsuni Jun 2016 #8

Horrible, horrible idea. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #10

Yep. It is interesting the breakdown of votes in the poll so far. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #12

I love your posts Tarc Jun 2016 #24

Almost all of the Bernie supporters voting "no" are ones geek tragedy Jun 2016 #14

Mmmh. I tried to look at it from the hardcore bernie viewpoint. cyberpunk Jun 2016 #17

I don't think Elizabeth Warren is going to be anyone's yes-woman nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #18

I'd hope not. nt cyberpunk Jun 2016 #19

Bernie supporters have been saying for months athena Jun 2016 #34

that's a lot of cross referencing yurbud Jun 2016 #38

I'm for it. Here is why. RDANGELO Jun 2016 #16

That's a bunch of if's floppyboo Jun 2016 #22

Well at least we are staying true to the usual suspects. Eom MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #29

Great for Banks, terrible for citizens Marrah_G Jun 2016 #30

Why? democrattotheend Jun 2016 #31

Yes, because she isn't in the senate to fight them. Marrah_G Jun 2016 #37

Warren is a fiery advocate. She can have a decades-long career in the Senate... Hekate Jun 2016 #32

She didn't have the courage to either run or support the progressive candidate. Kentonio Jun 2016 #33

Between VP and the Senate -- Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2016 #35

no, they have zero chemistry. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #36

No. But if she accepts it, I'll be hopeful of the terms and her judgement. nt JCanete Jun 2016 #39

it doesn't matter, since hillary will lose. nt restorefreedom Jun 2016 #42