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2016 Postmortem

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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:15 AM Jun 2016

A revolution in the sense Bernie refers to it, isn't instant oatmeal. [View all]

And historically it never has been. Clearly Bernie is referring to a non-violent revolution, one I think is better referred to as building a movement for real, substantive change.

It's something that takes time, dedication, direction, leadership and dogged determination.

Will it take hold? I feel hopeful that that it will. I hate to refer to the tea party or make comparisons with such an odious movement, but there can be no doubt that it transformed the republican party- for the worse. But the millions of Bernie voters despite the largely bullshit meme about Bernie bros, overwhelmingly support racial equality, women's rights, economic reform and other issues that have been staples of democratic politics for decades- before the big money interests gained such purchase within the democratic party.

It doesn't matter who leads the movement nearly as much as the involvement of people who support the goals voiced by Bernie and others.

You can support Hillary Clinton wholeheartedly and still believe we need serious election finance reform and other issues such as reducing college loan debt and providing opportunities for the far too many impoverished children that live in this country. One can support Hillary wholeheartedly and still believe in raising the Social Security cap. One can support her and still believe in limiting, not expanding fracking.

The eagerness of the establishment and MSM to pronounce Bernie's revolution dead and to bury it with haste is premature as all hell.

Only time will tell.

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there's a fine line to walk--they can't just fall in line and say "whatever Hillary says, goes" geek tragedy Jun 2016 #1
well, if that is the model for how we deal with the present stuation - Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #5
Why can't we have like buttons as we do on face book? Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #7
Welcome to DU.... Fumesucker Jun 2016 #9
lol, yeah no criticism of Obama here at DU. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #13
Do you think she will ask us to hold her feet to the fire, a la Obama? Lars39 Jun 2016 #12
Hillary Clinton probably does not need to worry about a lack of criticism nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #14
It can also be considered feedback. Lars39 Jun 2016 #16
the same people who've been on Obama's case will be on her case nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #17
And she still needs to be open to legitimate feedback if she's to represent all US citizens. Lars39 Jun 2016 #19
Fine analysis and nicely stated Cali. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #2
The Tea Party was a good thing. HassleCat Jun 2016 #3
I agree, except for one thing: Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #4
Actually Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #6
Actually, you're wrong. She is very pro-fracking, for example. cali Jun 2016 #8
You're so unbelievably biased it's ridiculous. qdouble Jun 2016 #20
far less biased than you, dear. cali Jun 2016 #21
The "establishment" has been PRAISING Bernie's campaign. Will it be a fair weather "revolution"? RBInMaine Jun 2016 #10
In the ways I can be involved. cali Jun 2016 #11
I wonder how people who intentionally isolate and alienate themselves from the party ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #15
He has huge ass rallies and he does not define and encourage the path to obtain this revolution seabeyond Jun 2016 #18
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