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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Susan Sarandon in two Tweets, on the same day [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)60. yes, Sanders called her unqualified because he didn't bother reading past
the headline of a Washington Post article. There's irony there if you look for it.
This wasn't Weaver's only offense (he also mansplained to Barbara Boxer how she had no right to feel afraid of an angry mob), but it was his most shining example:
http://www.vox.com/2016/4/6/11378306/hillary-clinton-lol-ambition-attack
fter Sanders won the Wisconsin primary Tuesday night, CNN's Jake Tapper asked Weaver whether the Sanders campaign is prepared for a tougher, possibly more negative campaign. Weaver countered, however, that the Clinton camp needs to stop going on the attack.
"This is what I would say to them, which is, you know, don't destroy the Democratic Party to satisfy the secretary's ambitions to become president of the United States," Weaver said. "We want to have a party at the end of this we can unify. Let's have a tough debate. Let's talk about the issues there's a sharp contrast between the two of them. But let's not denigrate other people's supporters and tear the party apart."
How audacious of Clinton (who remains the party's frontrunner) to want to win her race! It's not like she's been called "one of the most broadly and deeply qualified presidential candidates in modern history," or spent time in the White House, or organized one of the most powerful fundraising operations in the election. Seems like someone sprinkled a bit too much presidential ambition in her oatmeal this morning, amiright?
When asked by CNN's Chris Cuomo to comment on Sanders's assertion that her ambitions are "destroying the Democratic Party," she simply took a moment for a hearty laugh. After catching her breath, she called the idea that she's too ambitious "ludicrous" and went on to tout her work defending and fundraising for the party for the past 40 years.
Of course criticism about Clinton is expected from her opponent's campaign manager. And while some male candidates are called "too ambitious," women's ambitions are often conflated with selfishness.
Weaver's comments don't exist in a vacuum. They reflect the classic gendered critiques made of powerful women. While leadership and likability go hand in hand for men, the opposite is true for women. Study after study shows that women are often punished for seeking positions of power and are less likely to be promoted for those roles despite having equal or better skills than their male counterparts.
In fact, Weaver's description of Clinton fits so neatly into the stale sexist stereotype about powerful women that there's an actual Onion article from 2006 called "Hillary Clinton Is Too Ambitious to Be President." Ten years later, it seems like instead of progressing on female leadership, we're even farther away from reckoning with it.
Clinton knew smashing the glass ceiling of presidential politics would be arduous, but she probably didn't know it would include seeing a decade-old Onion headline become reality.
"This is what I would say to them, which is, you know, don't destroy the Democratic Party to satisfy the secretary's ambitions to become president of the United States," Weaver said. "We want to have a party at the end of this we can unify. Let's have a tough debate. Let's talk about the issues there's a sharp contrast between the two of them. But let's not denigrate other people's supporters and tear the party apart."
How audacious of Clinton (who remains the party's frontrunner) to want to win her race! It's not like she's been called "one of the most broadly and deeply qualified presidential candidates in modern history," or spent time in the White House, or organized one of the most powerful fundraising operations in the election. Seems like someone sprinkled a bit too much presidential ambition in her oatmeal this morning, amiright?
When asked by CNN's Chris Cuomo to comment on Sanders's assertion that her ambitions are "destroying the Democratic Party," she simply took a moment for a hearty laugh. After catching her breath, she called the idea that she's too ambitious "ludicrous" and went on to tout her work defending and fundraising for the party for the past 40 years.
Of course criticism about Clinton is expected from her opponent's campaign manager. And while some male candidates are called "too ambitious," women's ambitions are often conflated with selfishness.
Weaver's comments don't exist in a vacuum. They reflect the classic gendered critiques made of powerful women. While leadership and likability go hand in hand for men, the opposite is true for women. Study after study shows that women are often punished for seeking positions of power and are less likely to be promoted for those roles despite having equal or better skills than their male counterparts.
In fact, Weaver's description of Clinton fits so neatly into the stale sexist stereotype about powerful women that there's an actual Onion article from 2006 called "Hillary Clinton Is Too Ambitious to Be President." Ten years later, it seems like instead of progressing on female leadership, we're even farther away from reckoning with it.
Clinton knew smashing the glass ceiling of presidential politics would be arduous, but she probably didn't know it would include seeing a decade-old Onion headline become reality.
Weaver's comments were a sexist dog whistle. We can all look forward to his absence from the national conversation going forward.
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Nowhere near as tasteful as wearing a 12k desinger jacket while your speaking on income inequality
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#20
Regardless who wins the GE Susan Sarandon will not go hungry, or lack healthcare
still_one
Jun 2016
#26
Take it easy on Mr. Weaver. He's not the only one to note Clinton's troubling ambition.
lapucelle
Jun 2016
#83
Indeed. Kindly produce a quote of Weaver attacking a man for their ambition. nt
msanthrope
Jun 2016
#81
No, it's her smug, superior tone she takes to public servants like Elizabeth Warren nt
geek tragedy
Jun 2016
#54
She's a hypocrite. She has no problem with quid pro quo as long as she's the benefactor.
grossproffit
Jun 2016
#59
So Sarandon is in charge of deciding government policy now? If not, who gives a damn.
Skwmom
Jun 2016
#87
+1 She made a TV commercial with her own money, asking why we were going to war in Iraq.
merrily
Jun 2016
#61
Oh BooHoo, sarandan.. my heart bleeds for your vapidity. i bet Elizabeth was really impressed..
Cha
Jun 2016
#72
Is that like being a privileged white person supporting a privileged white person
Scootaloo
Jun 2016
#76