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2016 Postmortem

arely staircase

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6. ok, droning people instead of killing many more in a large Asian land invasion is not "Left"

Reply to JonLeibowitz (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:57 PM

Jun 2016

but it is leftward from where we were. Yes Obama is center left or just center even if far to the left of Cheney. now the American continuum has always (post WW2) been fixed rightward of the European one, despite the fact places like France have had their Trumps for decades. Bernie, despite self identifying as a Democratic Socialist would really be a Social Democrat in Europe, based on his presidential platform.

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Clinton, Obama, Sanders all scorch Trumps bigoted ass. [View all] arely staircase Jun 2016 OP

Clinton's foreign policy is center-right. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #1

arguably. then Obama would be dead center. To me she is more dead center and he is center left. arely staircase Jun 2016 #2

I agree, Obama is center-left to (arguably) center JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #3

sadly the move to drones (and away from large land invasions) was a move to the left. arely staircase Jun 2016 #4

Agreed, but I try to think of the continuum as fixed with individual players operating on the line JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #5

ok, droning people instead of killing many more in a large Asian land invasion is not "Left" arely staircase Jun 2016 #6

Yes, Sanders has always (well, maybe not as a rebellious Mayor) been center-left to left. Cheers. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #9

We do not have center left foreign policy in this country even Bernie is center right. JRLeft Jun 2016 #11

And Hillary is then far-right and the GOP is extreme-right? JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #12

The GOP is insane, but Hillary is far right on foreign policy. JRLeft Jun 2016 #14

Sanders? Where? robbedvoter Jun 2016 #7

CNN about an hour ago. arely staircase Jun 2016 #8

Sanders? He's incapable of shifting from his talking points, the ones we can all recite from heart. SharonClark Jun 2016 #10

You would prefer him to not assail Trump? JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #13