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Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
37. Here's what bothers me.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 10:10 AM
Jun 2016
This time around, the open primaries were better for Bernie, because he did better with independents.


Independents, by your own admission, voted for a self described democratic-socialist, but establishment Democrats voted for the more right leaning candidate. We can no longer call ourselves a left of center party with a straight face.
I believe that only registered Democrats should choose their nominee. Others are not Trust Buster Jun 2016 #1
^ This. nt justiceischeap Jun 2016 #35
^ That. nt rock Jun 2016 #49
+1000 stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #53
Florida is a closed primary state and I like it that way. Lochloosa Jun 2016 #2
I believe that all people in America should be allowed to vote, period. NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #3
Everyone gets to vote in November. Primaries choose candidates, not government officials. YouDig Jun 2016 #8
Everyone IS allowed to vote. In the General Election. auntpurl Jun 2016 #13
I do not buy the premise that closed primaries are necessary to keep Republicans from voting in them NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #18
Ok...how else would you keep Republicans from voting in them? auntpurl Jun 2016 #19
Simple NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #25
What you're describing is a semi-closed primary. auntpurl Jun 2016 #26
What I believe to be truly Democratic is for voters to simply be "registered to vote". NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #33
A permanent change in the face of a temporary dynamic is really dumb. Zynx Jun 2016 #4
Push the party to the right? bonemachine Jun 2016 #63
A lot of Bill Clinton's support in 1992 was from moderate independents and Republicans. Zynx Jun 2016 #68
You say that like bonemachine Jun 2016 #69
horrible idea - a party's candidate should come from the party members DrDan Jun 2016 #5
Kentucky is closed. We will stay closed. leftofcool Jun 2016 #6
closed primaries are for a reason and those reasons are completely justified beachbum bob Jun 2016 #7
The states will decide, no matter what comes of this discussion Dem2 Jun 2016 #9
I think we should get rid of closed primaries. MrsKirkley Jun 2016 #10
That's a valid argument. But would you still feel that way if open primaries helped Bloomberg YouDig Jun 2016 #15
I like closed primaries Gothmog Jun 2016 #11
I think they should all be closed primaries. WhiteTara Jun 2016 #12
No super-d's and closed primaries everywhere is what I'd like. NT Adrahil Jun 2016 #14
We have a closed Primary, Bernie won it by 12 points. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #16
Bernie made a big deal of it, not me. He made a big deal of it during the campaign, YouDig Jun 2016 #20
Did Bernie post this OP? No, you did. Am I speaking with Bernie? No, I'm speaking to you. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #22
I made this OP specifically because Bernie is calling to end closed primaries. YouDig Jun 2016 #31
Holy shit! You wrote this just because Bernie recommends open primaries? Then you admit floriduck Jun 2016 #54
Huh? YouDig Jun 2016 #57
You wrote the OP. Then you add post#31, which is contradictory. Are you still confused by my floriduck Jun 2016 #59
This business about open primaries bringing new people into the process, and also the premise... George II Jun 2016 #17
one flaw with your statistics. ONLY people who Exilednight Jun 2016 #38
Population is UP 20 million and voter turnout was DOWN 7 million. George II Jun 2016 #43
Two parties defacto control government. That makes them more than closed clubs. Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #21
One thing that makes them not closed clubs is that anyone can join them. YouDig Jun 2016 #34
Independents choose to exclude themselves. All they need to do to vote in primaries is register geek tragedy Jun 2016 #41
The Democratic Party is open to all eligible voters (and younger, as "Young Democrats") George II Jun 2016 #44
By why should only members of two established clubs Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #48
That's not true, members of other clubs can put up a candidates and get support and votes, and.... George II Jun 2016 #50
get rid of superdelegates and caucuses, states determine primary rules anyways nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #23
I'm okay with getting rid of superdelegates. That would have determined our nominee weeks ago. George II Jun 2016 #45
let them vote on convention rules and platform, but not the prez race, maybe geek tragedy Jun 2016 #46
I finally agree with you on something, yay! AntiBank Jun 2016 #60
Yes (nt) bigwillq Jun 2016 #24
The political parties should pick the nominees themselves apnu Jun 2016 #27
Operation Chaos jzodda Jun 2016 #28
We have primaries every 2 years ... so make it TWO years to get registered SFnomad Jun 2016 #30
Yep I forgot about the midterm jzodda Jun 2016 #32
Hell no workinclasszero Jun 2016 #29
Nope, register 6-8 weeks before. bettyellen Jun 2016 #36
Here's what bothers me. Exilednight Jun 2016 #37
I'm ok with getting rid of caucuses, but I think Democratic primaries should be for Democrats CanonRay Jun 2016 #39
40% of Sanders voters in WV said they'd support Trump in Nov. baldguy Jun 2016 #40
I met some Republicans who registered as Democrats Yonnie3 Jun 2016 #42
Closed primaries allow the party leaders to disenfranchise many millions of people, by picking who -none Jun 2016 #47
No it's caucuses that do that. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #65
I like that there's a mix among the states. Chemisse Jun 2016 #51
Semi-closed is best SheenaR Jun 2016 #52
They absolutely need to go. Any barrier to voting needs to be torn down. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #55
Open early is ok. Closed after the halfway point, to prevent Rs from tampering if they've picked. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #56
Establishment HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #58
Clinton won more open Primaries than Sanders, 13 out of 23. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #61
Bernie did better in open primaries than he did in closed ones, is what I meant. YouDig Jun 2016 #64
I like California's system democrattotheend Jun 2016 #62
I think independents should always get to vote in the primary of their choice. phleshdef Jun 2016 #66
I'm sure Republicans would like Dems to have open primaries so the GOP can help choose the DEms Bill USA Jun 2016 #67
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