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In reply to the discussion: Protip: Citing Russia Today does not help your case [View all]ButterflyBlood
(12,644 posts)26. This is what the California SoS site actually says
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/
Election results are updated as often as new data is received from county elections offices after the polls close at 8:00 p.m. on Election Day. Many ballots are counted after Election Day. County elections officials have approximately one month to complete their extensive tallying, auditing, and certification work. They must report final certified results to the Secretary of State by July 8, 2016.
So yes, counting the ballots long after election day is something that is actually planned for in advance. Hell there's even a specific page on the site to accommodate for this:
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/status/
It states when every count in the state has had its last check in. The vast majority did so on June 17, none did so earlier than June 10. Yes the ballots are still being counted...as always the plan to begin with. There's even also a separate page to explain the unprocessed ballots status!
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/unprocessed-ballots-status
It typically takes weeks to process and count all of the ballots. Elections officials have approximately one month to complete their extensive tallying, auditing, and certification work (known as the "official canvass" .
Most notably, voting by mail has increased significantly in recent years and many vote-by-mail ballots arrive on Election Day. In addition, vote-by-mail ballots postmarked on or before Election Day and received by county elections officials no later than 3 days after Election Day must be processed. In processing vote-by-mail ballots, elections officials must confirm each voter's registration status, verify each voter's signature on the vote-by-mail envelope, and ensure each person did not vote elsewhere in the same election before the ballot can be counted.
Other ballots that are processed after Election Day include provisional ballots (processed similar to vote-by-mail ballots), and ballots that are damaged or cannot be machine-read and must be remade by elections officials.
The Unprocessed Ballots Report (PDF) features unofficial county updates on the number of outstanding ballots that still need to be processed during the official canvass. This information is voluntarily reported by county elections officials and may not be complete.
State law requires county elections officials to report their final results to the Secretary of State by July 8, 2016. The Secretary of State then has until July 15, 2016, to certify the results of the election. For the most up-to-date vote counts before the statewide certified results are published, contact a county elections office directly.
The California Sec of State site also states this under their FAQs: http://vote.sos.ca.gov/frequently-asked-questions/
Will the unofficial election results change after election night? When will all of the election results be final?
Yes, election results will change throughout the canvass period as vote-by-mail ballots, provisional ballots, and other ballots are processed. Depending on the volume of these types of ballots, it may take up to 30 days (28 days for presidential delegates and 30 days for all other contests) for county elections officials to verify voter records and determine if ballots have been cast by eligible voters. The frequency of updated results will vary based on the size of each county and the process each local elections office uses to tally and report votes.
County elections officials must report their final results to the Secretary of State for presidential delegates by July 5, 2016, and all other offices by July 8, 2016. The Secretary of State will compile the results of the election of presidential delegates by July 9, 2016, and will certify the results of all other offices by July 15, 2016.
Everything that you're talking about is outlined on the California Secretary of State site. Sounds like it's simply law and policy, nothing to do with activists.
Also the very counties you cited are not shown as having flipped to Bernie.
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/county/alameda
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/county/marin
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/county/san-francisco
Election results are updated as often as new data is received from county elections offices after the polls close at 8:00 p.m. on Election Day. Many ballots are counted after Election Day. County elections officials have approximately one month to complete their extensive tallying, auditing, and certification work. They must report final certified results to the Secretary of State by July 8, 2016.
So yes, counting the ballots long after election day is something that is actually planned for in advance. Hell there's even a specific page on the site to accommodate for this:
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/status/
It states when every count in the state has had its last check in. The vast majority did so on June 17, none did so earlier than June 10. Yes the ballots are still being counted...as always the plan to begin with. There's even also a separate page to explain the unprocessed ballots status!
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/unprocessed-ballots-status
It typically takes weeks to process and count all of the ballots. Elections officials have approximately one month to complete their extensive tallying, auditing, and certification work (known as the "official canvass" .
Most notably, voting by mail has increased significantly in recent years and many vote-by-mail ballots arrive on Election Day. In addition, vote-by-mail ballots postmarked on or before Election Day and received by county elections officials no later than 3 days after Election Day must be processed. In processing vote-by-mail ballots, elections officials must confirm each voter's registration status, verify each voter's signature on the vote-by-mail envelope, and ensure each person did not vote elsewhere in the same election before the ballot can be counted.
Other ballots that are processed after Election Day include provisional ballots (processed similar to vote-by-mail ballots), and ballots that are damaged or cannot be machine-read and must be remade by elections officials.
The Unprocessed Ballots Report (PDF) features unofficial county updates on the number of outstanding ballots that still need to be processed during the official canvass. This information is voluntarily reported by county elections officials and may not be complete.
State law requires county elections officials to report their final results to the Secretary of State by July 8, 2016. The Secretary of State then has until July 15, 2016, to certify the results of the election. For the most up-to-date vote counts before the statewide certified results are published, contact a county elections office directly.
The California Sec of State site also states this under their FAQs: http://vote.sos.ca.gov/frequently-asked-questions/
Will the unofficial election results change after election night? When will all of the election results be final?
Yes, election results will change throughout the canvass period as vote-by-mail ballots, provisional ballots, and other ballots are processed. Depending on the volume of these types of ballots, it may take up to 30 days (28 days for presidential delegates and 30 days for all other contests) for county elections officials to verify voter records and determine if ballots have been cast by eligible voters. The frequency of updated results will vary based on the size of each county and the process each local elections office uses to tally and report votes.
County elections officials must report their final results to the Secretary of State for presidential delegates by July 5, 2016, and all other offices by July 8, 2016. The Secretary of State will compile the results of the election of presidential delegates by July 9, 2016, and will certify the results of all other offices by July 15, 2016.
Everything that you're talking about is outlined on the California Secretary of State site. Sounds like it's simply law and policy, nothing to do with activists.
Also the very counties you cited are not shown as having flipped to Bernie.
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/county/alameda
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/county/marin
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/county/san-francisco
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Neither does any news source that has something negative to say about HRC. Neither linking to videos
insta8er
Jun 2016
#2
Dunno what that has to do with the post. Didn't mention the NY Times once.
ButterflyBlood
Jun 2016
#6
Anyone who's been here longer than 5 years should be considered a 'pro', perhaps?
randome
Jun 2016
#21
WELL the reality according to the Secretary of State (in Calif's) own web papes -
truedelphi
Jun 2016
#18
not at all true. Nearly One million ballots remained uncounted during the GM food
truedelphi
Jun 2016
#22
At no point did any official in California state the ballots would not be counted.
ButterflyBlood
Jun 2016
#24
"Activists" had nothing to do with it and "flipping" counties means nothing.
Lord Magus
Jun 2016
#27
you guys are HILARIOUS. RT isn't Putin Propaganda. Ed Shultz and Thom Hartmann
pdsimdars
Jun 2016
#37