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In reply to the discussion: Dem Platform Committee votes *Against* Single-Payer Healthcare 7-6 [View all]think
(11,641 posts)10. US News: Clinton's Health Care Attack Makes No Sense
Clinton's Health Care Attack Makes No Sense
By Pat Garofalo | Assistant Managing Editor Jan. 13, 2016, at 12:40 p.m.
The Clinton camp is lambasting Bernie Sanders' health care plan, but its critique is blatantly dishonest.
~Snip~
Clinton's daughter Chelsea got in on the act, too, in an even worse manner, claiming that Sanders wants to "dismantle Obamacare." She said: "I worry if we give Republicans Democratic permission to do that, we'll go back to an era, before we had the Affordable Care Act, that would strip millions and millions and millions of people off their health insurance."
This is mostly rank nonsense. A single-payer system, like it does in many other countries, would cover everybody, period. To say otherwise is either willfully misunderstanding how it would work or simple scaremongering.
Hillary Clinton, jumping on a line in an old Sanders bill that says his plan would be administered by the states, is attempting to tie him to the failure of many Republican governors to embrace Obamacare's Medicaid expansion, which has resulted in millions of people being denied health insurance. But that's very different from single-payer: Sure, Republican governors could maybe try to weasel out of whatever a President Sanders had in mind, but to think he would design a plan that governors could just ignore is silly. (For the record, Sanders' camp emphatically says the plan would apply to everyone.)
Bernie Sanders is proposing single-payer, universal healthcare. You can hardly say he is trying to take health care away from anyone or retreat from Obamacare. He's trying to exceed it. And so it's not really an honest attack."
Read more:
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pat-garofalo/articles/2016-01-13/hillary-clintons-bizarre-attack-on-bernie-sanders-health-care-plan
By Pat Garofalo | Assistant Managing Editor Jan. 13, 2016, at 12:40 p.m.
The Clinton camp is lambasting Bernie Sanders' health care plan, but its critique is blatantly dishonest.
~Snip~
Clinton's daughter Chelsea got in on the act, too, in an even worse manner, claiming that Sanders wants to "dismantle Obamacare." She said: "I worry if we give Republicans Democratic permission to do that, we'll go back to an era, before we had the Affordable Care Act, that would strip millions and millions and millions of people off their health insurance."
This is mostly rank nonsense. A single-payer system, like it does in many other countries, would cover everybody, period. To say otherwise is either willfully misunderstanding how it would work or simple scaremongering.
Hillary Clinton, jumping on a line in an old Sanders bill that says his plan would be administered by the states, is attempting to tie him to the failure of many Republican governors to embrace Obamacare's Medicaid expansion, which has resulted in millions of people being denied health insurance. But that's very different from single-payer: Sure, Republican governors could maybe try to weasel out of whatever a President Sanders had in mind, but to think he would design a plan that governors could just ignore is silly. (For the record, Sanders' camp emphatically says the plan would apply to everyone.)
Bernie Sanders is proposing single-payer, universal healthcare. You can hardly say he is trying to take health care away from anyone or retreat from Obamacare. He's trying to exceed it. And so it's not really an honest attack."
Read more:
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pat-garofalo/articles/2016-01-13/hillary-clintons-bizarre-attack-on-bernie-sanders-health-care-plan
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Dem Platform Committee votes *Against* Single-Payer Healthcare 7-6 [View all]
HerbChestnut
Jun 2016
OP
America is the only one of the 25 wealthiest nations that doesn't provide universal health care
think
Jun 2016
#2
An endorsement is when you say "yes", not when you say "we have disagreements on it".
CrowCityDem
Jun 2016
#109
America is the only one of the 25 wealthiest nations that doesn't provide universal health care
think
Jun 2016
#66
And right now those countries seem to be coming apart at the seams. BRexit, FRexit,
Jitter65
Jun 2016
#78
Canada is coming apart at the seams? Really? You're response is complete bullshit. Spare me....
think
Jun 2016
#79
Universal health care provides care to all, this was Hillary's position in the 90's and still is.
Thinkingabout
Jun 2016
#49
You thought you heard? Really? We can't afford health care for at least all the children
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#27
I agree. A Public Option is the next step now that we've had ObamaCare for a while and
BlueCaliDem
Jun 2016
#28
And the American people will have no hope of getting universal healthcare. Awesome.
think
Jun 2016
#13
Clinton's preferred language on a $15 minimum wage is weak and ineffectual. Indexing was rejected.
w4rma
Jun 2016
#68
No they didn't knock out the 15 minimum wage. That was a total misrepresentation. What was
still_one
Jun 2016
#63
Bad rationalization. You set goals and work towards them. The Big Corporations
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#29
Ahh the "it's complicated" rationalization. The Big Corporations that have their lobbists
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#33
They are sticking the thumbs in the eyes of the millions that have come out to
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#31
What you saw is a edited video rejecting redundant wording, not the 15 dollar minimum wage
still_one
Jun 2016
#65
Placing single payer in the platform would only serve as a party-wide rebuke of the President's
Trust Buster
Jun 2016
#35
no, a majority don't and most who do aren't willing to make compromises about it
La Lioness Priyanka
Jun 2016
#41
A majority of NRA members support common sense gun control like increased background checks, too
TransitJohn
Jun 2016
#46
The "Democratic" platform is AGAINST: single-payer healthcare, $15 min wage and FOR TPP
Triana
Jun 2016
#47
Those entities that make the Platform members personally wealthy don't really want it though.
NorthCarolina
Jun 2016
#51
And the usual crew will be here soon to spew all the bullshit re: how this doesn't matter...
AzDar
Jun 2016
#62
So you would have wealthy people pay for healthcare twice? And here's some info on federal housing
HerbChestnut
Jun 2016
#90
It's supported by 73% of Democrats. Shouldn't the platform reflect the party?
Chathamization
Jun 2016
#99