2016 Postmortem

robbedvoter

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53. OWS wanted to recruit Warren. Sanders was Plan B

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 09:42 PM

Jul 2016

I was part of it when it was legit, I watched it disintegrate at the end - I am watching the same process again. Of course the economic injustice is a crucial issue that traditionally Ds address - and remedy. Peace and prosperity. Taking us out of crisis. And please don't blow up banks - my savings are in there!

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Why Sanders lost, and why I think it matters. [View all] redgreenandblue Jul 2016 OP

And that economic discomfort will continue demwing Jul 2016 #1

Your comparisons for Sanders are very confusing. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #3

more people liked her message SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #26

The majority vote in state after state is a fact. Hortensis Jul 2016 #33

Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #49

Hillary thoughtfully addresses the problems of climate change pnwmom Jul 2016 #55

great SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #60

She doesn't, actually. Scootaloo Jul 2016 #77

Fracking? rickford66 Jul 2016 #100

Please don't refight the primary. Bernie isn't the presumptive nominee. nt pnwmom Jul 2016 #103

Do you even understand fracking? I make a good living from alternative and renewable fuels tonyt53 Jul 2016 #104

lol La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #64

I would think that if 16,838,264 voted for Clinton and 13,100,987 voted for Sanders, the premise.... George II Jul 2016 #70

The only fact you get from that is that Clinton got 3,737,277 more votes Scootaloo Jul 2016 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #87

.+1 840high Jul 2016 #47

The narrative is wrong. The word "young" was left out before white male. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #2

Thanks for saving the rest of us the time in making the same point. politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2016 #17

This explains what is going on with the "revolution." BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #20

Awesomely interesting! Entryism definition Her Sister Jul 2016 #42

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That's about how 840high Jul 2016 #48

You do realize she won delegates based on how people voted right? mythology Jul 2016 #92

That's the claim anyway. timmymoff Jul 2016 #96

Your assumption that we're not part of the party is vile Scootaloo Jul 2016 #79

You just saved me a BUNCH of time with this reply. Thanks bravenak Jul 2016 #44

No we can't!! Isn't that inspiring? eridani Jul 2016 #74

^^^AMEN to this!^^^ Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #95

Hillary won because more Democrats voted for her still_one Jul 2016 #102

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LOL! Politicalboi Jul 2016 #7

What a shameful piece of text. SpareribSP Jul 2016 #11

The Mothers, The Grandmothers DianaForRussFeingold Jul 2016 #13

Can you explain how "bro" could possibly be considered racist? Is there some sort of hardship bettyellen Jul 2016 #24

To some, it is a pseudo-ghetto title...not quite a pejorative, libdem4life Jul 2016 #28

No it's actually referring to generally I whiter generic collegiate dudes..... bettyellen Jul 2016 #30

It was a mistake. DianaForRussFeingold Jul 2016 #35

"friendly" ?! DianaForRussFeingold Jul 2016 #29

Yeah dudes and bros have generally positive connotations.....the only negative would bettyellen Jul 2016 #31

I Miss-typed DianaForRussFeingold Jul 2016 #37

Well people use dude and bro for both sexes- it's just like "pal" but sort of young maybe post bettyellen Jul 2016 #38

Well, that's not how the term "berniebro" has been used. Ever. Scootaloo Jul 2016 #81

It's not that a singular bro is a bad thing - it's the swarm of bros we all saw on Reddit and even bettyellen Jul 2016 #93

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It doesn't matter. No matter how polls hyped Hillary from the get-go, people need to be more BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #5

The only group that went for Bernie was the one he pandered to. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #6

Those are policies he has fought for his entire political career. bvar22 Jul 2016 #12

Where are the bills he introduced in Congress for free health care and free tuition the politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2016 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author DianaForRussFeingold Jul 2016 #15

Bingo Justice Jul 2016 #21

+1, they didn't put much resources in the southern states uponit7771 Jul 2016 #32

And that gorup is our future eridani Jul 2016 #75

Question... Scootaloo Jul 2016 #82

For example: CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #90

That he was inexperienced and basically unknowledge about social bettyellen Jul 2016 #98

There are a number of very good reasons why Sanders didnot win the vote of key groups Gothmog Jul 2016 #8

I would go so far as to guess that the Clinton campaign's vetting of Sanders as an opponent is why BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #22

I agree with everything you said about President Obama, and would just add the following: politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2016 #23

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2016 #34

Most voted for Hillary because she is the most qualified, has the most experience upaloopa Jul 2016 #9

The "sore winner" phenomenon, as you call it, is about one thing and one thing only. DanTex Jul 2016 #10

Your third paragraph is exactly right realmirage Jul 2016 #41

Hillary won because she is the better candidate. JaneyVee Jul 2016 #14

. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #16

^^This^^ Loki Jul 2016 #68

Bernie Sanders lost because of his mistaken belief KMOD Jul 2016 #18

nope SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2016 #27

+1, angry is easy answers are hard and being sideways at one of the most popular dem presidents... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #36

Bingo! bravenak Jul 2016 #45

He had no relationships with the demographics he needed to win. Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #25

And Bernie's numbers were rising and stopped when he began attacking Hillary CreekDog Jul 2016 #108

Don't forget that Hillary has been under almost constant attack since the 1990's. pnwmom Jul 2016 #39

Describing Hillary merely as the "default candidate" is highly offensive realmirage Jul 2016 #40

+10000000000 Haveadream Jul 2016 #50

THANK YOU!!!!! robbedvoter Jul 2016 #54

K&R! Great Response! n/t DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #65

Totally agree. nt eastwestdem Jul 2016 #43

I think it's disingenuous of us to be dismissive of the discontent. randome Jul 2016 #51

OWS wanted to recruit Warren. Sanders was Plan B robbedvoter Jul 2016 #53

If the disconnect grows more strongly down the road, I think both 'sides' will be to blame. randome Jul 2016 #57

Charisma is a subjective thing, To you, media she is not, To her voters robbedvoter Jul 2016 #69

Money quote. forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #72

It didn't help that most of you laughed when we got our asses beat Scootaloo Jul 2016 #83

No one laughed at you and no one is laughing at you now. randome Jul 2016 #84

Ah yes, I'm lying about my experiences Scootaloo Jul 2016 #85

No one ever said you were lying, either. randome Jul 2016 #86

So, the majority D voters are numbskulls who voted for generic candidate robbedvoter Jul 2016 #52

I'm sure the women of Iraq and Libya are endlessly thrilled n/t eridani Jul 2016 #76

The things... Mike Nelson Jul 2016 #56

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Well, sure a virgo would say that. We libras, on the other hand, know better. randome Jul 2016 #59

LOL. yeah. that was it. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #63

. RandySF Jul 2016 #61

Change is scary TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #62

Nope DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #67

Nope. We actually like and respect her. grossproffit Jul 2016 #71

So many posters here who voted for Sanders think that Hillary won because of something wrong with us CreekDog Jul 2016 #109

If that's what you need to tell yourself MaggieD Jul 2016 #66

Perhaps you should think about how easily you dismiss the votes of BainsBane Jul 2016 #73

I guess even democracy has to be Bernsplained to us. RandySF Jul 2016 #80

Sanders lost because of the African-American vote oberliner Jul 2016 #88

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That's true oberliner Jul 2016 #105

How'd that argument work out? BainsBane Jul 2016 #110

If the GOP becomes the party of economic populism TheFarseer Jul 2016 #89

I disagree ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #91

Ugh. A long, long post that simply regurgitates what BS supporters have said or implied all along: Squinch Jul 2016 #94

Agreed La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #97

perfectly said, G_j Jul 2016 #99

why are you relitigating the primary? comradebillyboy Jul 2016 #106

Arguments such as this ignore several things Buzz cook Jul 2016 #107