2016 Postmortem

angrychair

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84. With all due respect MaggieD

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 02:50 PM

Jul 2016

Is he perfect? No. Does he have all the answers? No. Did he win the Democratic nomination? No.
That being said:
He was registered as a Democrat and on the ballot in all 50 states as a Democratic presidential candidate. He got millions of votes from registered Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents. He is a Democrat.

He is a progressive. He is the co-founder and pass chairperson of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

Lastly, on SCHIP. Did HRC, in her honorary role as First Lady, contribute to the passing of the SCHIP legislation? Yes.
I would humbly suggest that when people speak of her involvement in that process that temper it with the reality that she had no official role in that Bill's legislative fight or passage in Congress.
The reason SCHIP passed was because of Ted Kennedy. No other reason. This claim attempts to rewrite history and steal from the memories of Ted Kennedy and his amazing accomplishments.

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My Thanks to Bernie Sanders [View all] WiffenPoof Jul 2016 OP

Beautiful statement WiffenPoof and I am right along side you in your thoughts. n/t monmouth4 Jul 2016 #1

More people voted for Hillary. She put together a more diverse coalition of voters. Metric System Jul 2016 #2

way to shit on heartfelt post. tk2kewl Jul 2016 #10

Several on this thread. merrily Jul 2016 #101

wtf? 840high Jul 2016 #34

Nothing in the OP was anti-HRC Ken Burch Jul 2016 #35

Sometimes these people have got no heart n/t Pluvious Jul 2016 #62

Bernie had the 4th most votes in history for a Dem primary candidate yodermon Jul 2016 #65

You obviously don't get it passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #89

Did you read the OP? roody Jul 2016 #113

While I respectfully disagree ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #3

I Appreciate... WiffenPoof Jul 2016 #4

Agreed, very well said.The perfect self supporting progressive who stood for the people, not power bjobotts Jul 2016 #77

You clearly see a different politician than I do MaggieD Jul 2016 #5

And you know what... WiffenPoof Jul 2016 #6

Yep it's fine MaggieD Jul 2016 #8

We have that in common. chwaliszewski Jul 2016 #99

Hope sammcgee68 Jul 2016 #90

Not to mention all those who actually worked with him - and didn't endorse him. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2016 #76

Well said... jemsan Jul 2016 #7

Oh the drama MaggieD Jul 2016 #11

I appreciate your advice....nt WiffenPoof Jul 2016 #12

I wasn't responding to you MaggieD Jul 2016 #13

Thank you, MaggieD, for the dose of reality. SO well said... Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #48

MaggieD WiffenPoof Jul 2016 #63

Bernie is an independent - not a Democrat MaggieD Jul 2016 #71

You seem so angry.... WiffenPoof Jul 2016 #82

I'm annoyed that Bernie has dissed the shit out of Dems MaggieD Jul 2016 #87

I don't see some as ever getting over the primary fight AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #108

With all due respect MaggieD angrychair Jul 2016 #84

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Senator Sanders liberal from boston Jul 2016 #110

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My God your shallow and petty insights are so childish.He's what the dem party was all about bjobotts Jul 2016 #74

You represent yourself MaggieD Jul 2016 #75

+1000 LiberalLovinLug Jul 2016 #106

The party didn't ignore the Bernie's ideals or message. They amended the platform pnwmom Jul 2016 #16

Thanks for your response... WiffenPoof Jul 2016 #64

Thank you WiffenPoof and jemsan. Labels mean little. George Eliot Jul 2016 #18

Thank you! Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #54

Sorry but at age 58 I've belonged to the Democratic Party for 40 years. I have 3 adult children politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2016 #24

Change takes leadership. Very cynical view I think. George Eliot Jul 2016 #42

^^^AMEN to this!^^^ Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #55

Well, I am 63 sangfroid Jul 2016 #57

I wasn't going to respond... WiffenPoof Jul 2016 #66

You have infinitely more patience than I do. pangaia Jul 2016 #80

Enjoyed reading. Thanks. Nt NCTraveler Jul 2016 #9

Thank you....NT WiffenPoof Jul 2016 #67

Strong Hillary supporters would have felt exactly the same way as you, pnwmom Jul 2016 #14

Excellent post....thanks NT WiffenPoof Jul 2016 #69

Very thoughtful MFM008 Jul 2016 #15

Hey Paige - calimary Jul 2016 #17

If Sanders had won bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #19

Sanders a 'flawed' candidate? TheProgressive Jul 2016 #22

You're welcome bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #23

If you don't support Bernie, that's fine, but it's not fair to treat him as a phony. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #32

Yes, which is why "authentic" comes to mind so easily. George Eliot Jul 2016 #43

Senator Sanders liberal from boston Jul 2016 #60

Can't win a majority bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #104

Had the DNC and MSM not meddled in the primary, he would have won by huuuuge margins AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #109

Yes, if the Democratic party had had no leadership and bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #111

Senator Sanders liberal from boston Jul 2016 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author stonecutter357 Jul 2016 #103

If Sanders had won, he would have been killed by the PTB. roody Jul 2016 #114

One fact wrong...he was never a professor. He only has a bachlor's degree and worked a series of odd eastwestdem Jul 2016 #20

I Know That He Was Never A Professor WiffenPoof Jul 2016 #26

It helps to make sure you get outside a little each day. This is very well written. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #21

Thanks for the advice....it is very much appreciated. NT WiffenPoof Jul 2016 #27

WiffenPoof italiangirl Jul 2016 #25

Thank you, very eloquently written. But we have the youth and therefore the future. The establishmen insta8er Jul 2016 #28

This is a beautifully written piece … NanceGreggs Jul 2016 #29

You could have made your points without the last, dismissive lines. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #31

And many of those who backed Bernie ... NanceGreggs Jul 2016 #38

Please let go of your bitterness, Nance. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #39

Just as there was no reason ... NanceGreggs Jul 2016 #40

I am not going to alert on you. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #45

Why do you insist on thinking that only Bernie supporters believe in transformation? Loki Jul 2016 #53

Bernie ran Dem because he had to for attention. It was smart. George Eliot Jul 2016 #44

It was never a matter of what we can or cannot pay for. NanceGreggs Jul 2016 #47

Another response that cuts through the BS, especially the last paragraph... Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #51

You're bitter. I get it. B was truthful. Authentic. George Eliot Jul 2016 #72

You're projecting. NanceGreggs Jul 2016 #73

Well, that didn't answer my post but... ok. George Eliot Jul 2016 #79

He ran as a Democrat so he wouldn't be a spoiler for the Dems in the fall. yodermon Jul 2016 #70

In a word, the paragraph about: Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #50

The hopelessness and cynicism in your post is just breathtaking. n/t yodermon Jul 2016 #68

That was heartfelt and true. n/t. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #30

Don't let our dreams die. 840high Jul 2016 #33

He has shown the path PowerToThePeople Jul 2016 #36

This is a simply beautiful post. herding cats Jul 2016 #37

Thank you for this post. This time it feels different bklyncowgirl Jul 2016 #41

I was a Kucinich delegate! Funny. N. Dakota is what B wants. George Eliot Jul 2016 #46

I remember those rearview mirror images as well! Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #52

K&R Paka Jul 2016 #56

I Love WiffenPoof's OP Carol Morgan Jul 2016 #58

Thank you WiffenPoof mithnanthy Jul 2016 #59

"And perhaps America’s last hurrah." Triana Jul 2016 #61

That was heartfelt and lovely jcgoldie Jul 2016 #78

100% agree. deathrind Jul 2016 #81

Agreed... freebrew Jul 2016 #83

K & R - Well said and thank you. Marie Marie Jul 2016 #85

Exactly. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2016 #91

Speaking for me. JeaneRaye Jul 2016 #93

I am getting older too, and I am with you. soldierant Jul 2016 #94

Kickety Rec'idy! cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #95

One of the best OPs reflection Jul 2016 #96

This is a great post, Wiffen. PoliticalMalcontent Jul 2016 #97

What an elegant and heartfelt post... chwaliszewski Jul 2016 #98

Very nice post. PatrickforO Jul 2016 #100

I appreciate Bernie Lunabell Jul 2016 #102

Fascinating thread... malthaussen Jul 2016 #105

Thankyou so much for expressing this LiberalLovinLug Jul 2016 #107

Beautiful post Highway61 Jul 2016 #115