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wildeyed

(11,240 posts)
38. It is because only now are enough people focusing on the issue.
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 04:08 PM
Jul 2016

Again, the DNC is not some giant living in the mountains. It is mostly made up of local and state level volunteers. Just people like you and me. And in my experience, it can be a massive bureaucratic clusterfuck. It DOES need fixing, but how to do that is a complicated problem. IMO, they dropped Dean's system, not because it wasn't a good idea in THEORY, but because, in PRACTICE, it was unworkable. So many state and local parties are FUBAR. It is hard to get anything done. And it takes ages to get consensus and for ideas to percolate up through the system. 50 states is a very good idea, but there is not enough infrastructure, money or volunteers to execute at this time.

I have been paying close attention to these issues for more than a decade. You know what most "progressives" said to me when I tried to warn them about voter ID ten years ago? "Who cares, doesn't everyone have ID?" Groups that worked to mobilize young, urban, immigrant and/or black voters knew what voter ID meant from the start. It was white, middle-class progressives who didn't get it. They do now that it hurt a primary candidate that many preferred and had an impact on their lives. The media is also to blame. They bought the GOP line about how voter ID would protect the system from fraud, even though there was zero evidence of widespread fraud and it would clearly disenfranchise a TON of voters.

Now that we see some consequences and the white middle-class portion of our base is educated on the issue, we see some change. But this is NOT the fault of "party" Dems. It is the fault of Democrats who didn't pay attention and a broken media. None of it was nefarious or corrupt. Shit happens. We try to fix it and move on. If we kick GOP ass this November, we have a much more open road on voting rights issues. Imma work on doing that, not berating my own side for understandable mistakes made in the past.

Goddamit it's just like I read on DU; this is the Republican platform I tell you! whatthehey Jul 2016 #1
Heh. Orsino Jul 2016 #2
Poe's Law just took effect. LOL. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #4
The Democratic Party is feeling The Bern where it counts----IN POLICIES nikto Jul 2016 #13
Voting should be on Veterans Day Cayenne Jul 2016 #3
Nice idea, Cayenne, but I don't think it'd work. Hortensis Jul 2016 #5
How about Columbus Day, then? moose65 Jul 2016 #27
Voting should be the first WEEKEND in November meow2u3 Jul 2016 #6
That requires a Constitutional Amendment, & we cannot afford to let right wingers get a crack at it. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #7
I don't think it requires an amendment moose65 Jul 2016 #26
What took them so long? So very long on such a fundamental issue? Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #8
Both Partys' entrenched politicos benefit from the status quo, even if it is crappy. Over time, the FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #17
In my experience, this is not true. wildeyed Jul 2016 #24
The proof is in the pudding. When they had control, when they could have pushed these issues, FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #30
Nah, my state passed a BUNCH of progressive legislation when Dems were in power. wildeyed Jul 2016 #34
Locally, yes. I am referring to the federal level. They simply don't address it, until now... FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #36
It is because only now are enough people focusing on the issue. wildeyed Jul 2016 #38
Too much focus on ID's when the real theft is happening electronically and voter role ejection. FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #39
I disagree. wildeyed Jul 2016 #41
I've seen enough to convince me. Regardless, electronic machines cannot be trusted. too many ways FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #42
Well you are entitled to an opinion, but we generally require a link wildeyed Jul 2016 #43
"we"require links? These issue have been exposed for years. Still to help you out... FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #44
When exactly did we have control? Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #46
The problems with voting have been visibly going on since Bush Jr's $election. the Dems have been FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #47
I think we will get the Senate. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #48
Logically I think the Dems should clean house with this election. In my gut, I am not so sure... FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #49
The GOP wins on racism and desperation...and of course fear. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #50
From the '08 Platform NCTraveler Jul 2016 #9
Here in Ohio Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #10
Mail in Leftcoastgary Jul 2016 #11
Yes, we love our mail-in ballots in Oregon. And we have great turnout. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #12
Here in Oregon voting is simple and easy WHEN CRABS ROAR Jul 2016 #22
Of course, the GOP will fight this to the death ... nikto Jul 2016 #14
Let's hope that will indeed be the end. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #15
Yeah, you'd think, but ... nikto Jul 2016 #21
After the election the fight will continue. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jul 2016 #23
After the election is where the biggest fights will be ... nikto Jul 2016 #28
About Fucking Time!!! Too bad DWS wasn't working on this as DNC Chair... too busy courting FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #16
Actually she was. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #18
BFD. That's not the significant problem with our elections. FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #19
Agreed. But it does contradict your insult to her and the party. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #20
First, DWS is a real turd. If the party wants her, that's on them. I don't! Next you MADE FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #29
Your failure was inconclusive, not my fault. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #32
Now your babbling. If she really supported voting reform, as you claim, show me the link. FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #33
After you prove your ungrounded attack, I'll counter. You threw out the faklse claim. Support it. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #35
What? That she courted payday lenders? Where have you been?? Else, be more specific. FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #37
This is GREAT news! wildeyed Jul 2016 #25
Democrats Unite on Voting Rights L. Coyote Jul 2016 #31
Democrats have always been serious about voting rights n/t DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #40
How nice Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #45
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