2016 Postmortem

LynneSin

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23. For me to vote for Jill Stein I would have to ignore everyone in the USA but myself

Wed Jul 20, 2016, 04:23 PM

Jul 2016

I would have to be so fricking selfish that it wouldn't matter how women, minorities and LGBTQ citizens will suffer with Trump as President. I would have to be a selfish prick and say that the only thing matters is ME. It matters that I have this set of issues that I support and if someone doesn't match it 100% then fuck it, I'll go vote 3rd party to find someone who comes closer to that match.

I won't care that under a Trump Presidency it won't make much of a difference with my life. I have a decent job, some savings and a fixed-rate mortgage. I'm past child-bearing years and done with my education so won't matter about that either. I would essentially have to say 'Fuck all of you it's about me'.

Well I can't think about my vote that way.

I think of everyone. And I realize that things won't be perfect under Hillary Clinton and I would suspect a few times she might even piss me off with what she does as President. But statically speaking I agree with Hillary Clinton anywhere from 85%-90% of the issues where she stands. It will be a far cry easier protesting that 10-15% where we don't agree then fighting ANYTHING and EVERYTHING, which would be a Trump Presidency.

And those Supreme Court Nominations are LIFETIME appointments. God forbid another Thomas or Scalia gets on the bench, one that is 50 years old. Your children and grandchildren will have to live with the decisions passed by that Supreme Court. Are my sensitive feelings about the few issues I disagree with Hillary Clinton that much more important that the civil rights of future generations? Hell no.

Hillary Clinton would not run the country by herself. So we can fight to get a better congress to help shape that future.

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It took a while, but I am all in for Clinton [View all] onecaliberal Jul 2016 OP

I've been with Hillary all along and the crap in Cleveland is even worse than I thought it would be tonyt53 Jul 2016 #1

I voted Sanders in primary and I'd cut off my arm before I pulled a lever for a fascist Republican blm Jul 2016 #34

it ain't over smith_70 Jul 2016 #73

Is that supposed to mean something ominous? I don't play BS games. blm Jul 2016 #80

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #55

GOTV! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #2

So glad you are here! Squinch Jul 2016 #3

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #4

not cool, imo. If someone is on board, they're on board and no need to use their geek tragedy Jul 2016 #8

Truth. Like many this poster judged despite not being "able to listen" - and I've heard that from so bettyellen Jul 2016 #15

I definitely said in the past that I would NEVER vote for Hillary. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #25

what's in the past is in the past. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #46

what?? smith_70 Jul 2016 #74

Ain't that the truth! Cha Jul 2016 #70

I hope you will consider self deleting this ... there is no reason for this. etherealtruth Jul 2016 #12

Is that something that was posted here? bonemachine Jul 2016 #13

K&R NCTraveler Jul 2016 #5

Yes. We've never seen the likes of this guy. It's so far beyond the pale. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #14

Ya know ... I really don't know that he is filled with hate ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #52

I do think hate is the wrong word. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #54

Oh believe me, I know what being a target feels like ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #58

I think you are describing a psychopath. nt fleabiscuit Jul 2016 #59

Or, at best ... a sociopath. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #60

From what I understand his mother up and shipped him out to military academy at age 13. fleabiscuit Jul 2016 #64

The more I hear about trump, the more I recall ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #65

I feel more of a Patrick Bateman-esque character, just cyberpunk Jul 2016 #76

Heck, I had dinner last night with my life-long repub sister-in-law...who has decided eastwestdem Jul 2016 #6

glad to have you on board with us, we don't have a vote to spare. nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #7

Amazing, isn't it, Onecaliberal? And shocking. Hortensis Jul 2016 #9

It honestly scares me. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #26

Me too, and no doubt many others. Hortensis Jul 2016 #28

I know the HRC campaign won't do it, but some social media type ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #56

"Full Godwin." :) Yes. Perhaps for some markets Hortensis Jul 2016 #66

I voted for Bernie in the primary Terra Alta Jul 2016 #10

Same here. I am mortified by what we're seeing. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #11

Thank you. fun n serious Jul 2016 #16

That's the spirit! BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #17

Thanks: onecaliberal Jul 2016 #22

Good for you! Good for all of us! Hayduke Bomgarte Jul 2016 #18

Ask them to watch the convention. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #19

Yeah... No Hayduke Bomgarte Jul 2016 #20

It convinced me that's all I'm saying... onecaliberal Jul 2016 #21

Wow. cwydro Jul 2016 #29

I believe what she is saying is she has no stomach to watch the hate fest that's the RNC convention. Fla Dem Jul 2016 #45

Yes that's exactly right. Hayduke Bomgarte Jul 2016 #49

Reading comprehension Hayduke Bomgarte Jul 2016 #50

No vote is a vote for Trump. Simple. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #44

For me to vote for Jill Stein I would have to ignore everyone in the USA but myself LynneSin Jul 2016 #23

I agree .. one_voice Jul 2016 #53

When someone says 'You are fear mongering' about voting for Hillary.... LynneSin Jul 2016 #69

Thank you. I think Hillary had more support among older voters because we've been watching pnwmom Jul 2016 #24

I agree. It's been 16 years since the Clintons have been out of the WH and what press they Fla Dem Jul 2016 #48

I agree with you! Her Sister Jul 2016 #67

Originally, I was a Martin O'Malley supporter. IrishEyes Jul 2016 #27

K & R 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #30

If you still don't think that Hillary is progressive enough to vote for... world wide wally Jul 2016 #31

They hate all women, or haven't you noticed. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #39

They seem to like Melania world wide wally Jul 2016 #57

It's the fantasy of her that they like. nt fleabiscuit Jul 2016 #61

Influence policy and remember that working together creates change bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #32

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #33

I'm NOT an outsider. I'm a lifelong dem, straight ticket voter. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #36

Your choice is Hillary or Trump. Which do you choose? Squinch Jul 2016 #42

You're voting for the person, not marrying them. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #47

Some advice. You agreed to the TOS as a new member. One of the Terms is: Fla Dem Jul 2016 #63

As conceited as this sounds, our vote will also impact the rest of the world nadine_mn Jul 2016 #35

+1 fleabiscuit Jul 2016 #62

onecaliberal Thank you so much! The RNC Convention is making me sick, angry and scared Lady_Chat Jul 2016 #37

Thank you from the bottom of my terrified little heart. nolabear Jul 2016 #38

We have no option. Scruffy1 Jul 2016 #40

Yes, nothing else will suffice. They literally want to destroy this country. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #41

Welcome aboard. You are completely right. auntpurl Jul 2016 #43

Welcome aboard! We are in this together! Together we will win! Fla Dem Jul 2016 #51

Yes the RNC show is crazy scary! They're just letting all out. Her Sister Jul 2016 #68

Mahalo, onecaliberal! Cha Jul 2016 #71

Yes, Me Too! UCmeNdc Jul 2016 #72

The first night, I was able to laugh the RNC off. Hey, let's play a drinking game with it, VulgarPoet Jul 2016 #75

We kind of have to be. Orsino Jul 2016 #77

I'm voting for the lesser of two evils, one last time Trajan Jul 2016 #78

Stamp! to ... moonscape Jul 2016 #79