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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
80. Cali, all I can guess is that you also are influenced by the media Kool-Aid.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:02 AM
Aug 2016

Hillary Clinton is doing amazingly well. Strangely, magically well if what the media keep reporting is so correct. I'm surprised you don't realize this.

Maybe you're missing the same strong dissonance between her real-life performance and the picture the MSM keep projecting that is escaping so many others?

As you should recall, the media were ALL surprised when the nation reacted to the unending chain of Clinton scandals in the 1990s, reported every day in the news, culminating in an impeachment attempt, by tossing a pack of Republicans out of office. Perhaps you were surprised then too? And now it's happening again--media covering scandals every day without fail through her entire campaign.

If it's not to be deja vu all over again, I'd rethink that powerful, crippling "distrust" meme you've apparently swallowed and are pushing here. In spite of questions being inserted on every poll so they can be reported continuously until the next poll provides more, pushing this meme just isn't doing its job. Either liberals are rejecting her in large numbers or there is, again, something wrong with this picture...!

In any case, in spite of a deeply divided electorate, in spite of being the first woman candidate for President of the United States, in spite of hundreds of millions of dollars spent in attempt to swiftboat her, in spite of petrified media bias against her:

Hillary Clinton is running for president with enormous support from her party, her admirers and colleagues in politics, and her electorate (over 88% Dems right now, and some of us are conservatives). And she's winning.

And she'd almost certainly win with a better GOP candidate too. It'd be closer, but demographic changes are killing the white man's party and people all across the spectrum are very unhappy with the GOP's performance.

Actually, saying that HRC has a trust deficit is spreading a RW meme, but SSDD, I guess. FSogol Aug 2016 #1
No. It's in poll after poll after poll. You want to call 538 or Quinnipiac or PPP right wing feel cali Aug 2016 #3
How is this useful? Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #27
And a RW Congressman was caught saying they keep investigating her R B Garr Aug 2016 #39
Cali, all I can guess is that you also are influenced by the media Kool-Aid. Hortensis Aug 2016 #80
all I can guess is your filters distort reality. cali Aug 2016 #87
Funny how the distorted reality shows up only in your own posts though, peraps those synergie Aug 2016 #100
I wish I could K&R your post, Hortensis NastyRiffraff Aug 2016 #90
Yes. Looking at results themselves and listening to results Hortensis Aug 2016 #92
Bill Clinton was impeached during his second term. Let's get the record straight. politicaljunkie41910 Aug 2016 #93
You're absolutely right NastyRiffraff Aug 2016 #95
The poster fails to note the 98 election was stunning in terms of GOP losses Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #104
Well perhaps you might note that in 1998 Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #103
I'm very familiar with the Clinton years having lived through it. politicaljunkie41910 Aug 2016 #120
The point is impeachement did not end well for them. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #121
Even idiots are right Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #10
But she does have a trust deficit UMTerp01 Aug 2016 #52
Well, people who love her so much apparently can. highprincipleswork Aug 2016 #61
Well, you could fact check the media stories that create this "trust deficit" and understand synergie Aug 2016 #101
She won the nomination handily so at least Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #105
A Right Wing meme? Highway61 Aug 2016 #107
Oh, good time to kick an anti-HRC post, huh? She is out there every day on the camapign trail FSogol Aug 2016 #111
Anti Hillary??? Highway61 Aug 2016 #113
Ah... Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #117
I agree SheriffBob Aug 2016 #2
'democrat politicians' huh? st17011864200074656 Aug 2016 #59
After the olymics and come September, I believe she will. glennward Aug 2016 #4
Agreed. Fall is the time to do it, not now. cali Aug 2016 #7
"but this is what is known as constructive criticism." NurseJackie Aug 2016 #5
What lie, nurse? Do tell. cali Aug 2016 #6
GMAFB! The lie you're perpetuating is that "she can't be trusted". NurseJackie Aug 2016 #13
It's not a lie. It's called fact cali Aug 2016 #24
I see what you're doing. I know exactly what you're doing. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #32
Wow. Talk about projection. The primary is over for me. Not for you though cali Aug 2016 #34
Yes, I can see what you're doing. "Projection" ?? "Ballistic" ?? Good grief! NurseJackie Aug 2016 #36
Thanks for doing the work to pull this together. Jim Lane Aug 2016 #43
The last thing I'm worried about is KMOD Aug 2016 #53
I agree that there are people on this thread who thoughtfully disagree, and I have responded, cali Aug 2016 #89
There's a difference between... bonemachine Aug 2016 #76
Yep. DURHAM D Aug 2016 #11
I agree and still believe it is the last lingering bitterness over the primary which is over folks. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #28
You Better Believe It!!!! nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #51
+1000! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #75
Stating out and out that our nominee has a trust deficit is an attack on a Democrtic nominee. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #106
You're correct, of course. It's easy to see what people are doing. I'm not fooled. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #114
I don't see how these posts survive. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #119
I was just reading an NYT piece saying the same basic thing. Curtland1015 Aug 2016 #8
NO..she should not hold more press conferences... helpisontheway Aug 2016 #9
+1.."... the media does not care what she has to say. They just want her to slip up..." and she uponit7771 Aug 2016 #14
If the press simply reported the facts, I'd agree with you, but Native Aug 2016 #12
I'm sure she will in the coming weeks. Trumps meltdown is center stage right now. grossproffit Aug 2016 #15
You are presenting a false narrative. There is a reason 57% of republicans believe that still_one Aug 2016 #16
Nope. I'm presenting facts. See post 24 cali Aug 2016 #25
Let me address your last comment first, because you are wrong there also. I was on the still_one Aug 2016 #33
^^This^^ stopbush Aug 2016 #45
Yep! AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #47
Nicely done. Thank you. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #65
Not rabid. Silly. Some are offering a more rounded Hortensis Aug 2016 #81
Hmmm mcar Aug 2016 #17
Exactly. La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 #23
Yep. sarae Aug 2016 #54
She can't. joshcryer Aug 2016 #18
That's reasonable and something I thought about before penning this oh-so-well-received op cali Aug 2016 #26
You knew it would not be received well when you posted it. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #108
I always hope for intelligent exchanges. cali Aug 2016 #110
It is an election year. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #116
She might also explain PDittie Aug 2016 #19
I'm wondering if people demanded the same explanations from Obama in 2008 and 2012. lapucelle Aug 2016 #37
I think she will, when the electorate tunes back in to the election in the fall auntpurl Aug 2016 #20
I am for anything that increases her chances of winning. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2016 #21
She seems to only have a likeability deficit when she is La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 #22
Bingo! Ambitious man = Leader; Ambitious woman = Bitch. grossproffit Aug 2016 #38
Bad idea BeyondGeography Aug 2016 #29
Right now would be the WORST time to have a press conference.. Peacetrain Aug 2016 #30
Please read the op. I clearly suggested the fall. Not now. cali Aug 2016 #31
Hillary is going to be President. Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #35
Hmm...I'll bet she has experienced press advisers on her staff. MineralMan Aug 2016 #40
3/4 of the questions would be about Benghazi and e-mails bluestateguy Aug 2016 #41
I think #'s about reliability or trustworthiness are irrelevant when she goes into office. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #42
+1 KMOD Aug 2016 #44
Exactly! There is a reason why Obama called her the most qualified. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #46
me too! KMOD Aug 2016 #48
She is cruising for a LANDSLIDE victory and it is still not good enough. Smh. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #49
The Rightwing created the trust issue...HRC should not have a press conference as their only aim beachbumbob Aug 2016 #50
Constructive criticism is fine. MineralMan Aug 2016 #55
Now, see... TwilightZone Aug 2016 #58
LOL! MineralMan Aug 2016 #63
+1 La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 #64
She's actively campaigning using a variety of media ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #56
She's leading, I don't see the need for her to expose herself to more scum RW hacks than is OnDoutside Aug 2016 #57
So they can ask her why nobody likes her? (again) Metric System Aug 2016 #60
What's constructive about taking the spotlight off Trump for even a minute? displacedtexan Aug 2016 #62
You should keep your JPR content on JPR. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #66
+1000. I don't know why the folks from JPR are back here. yardwork Aug 2016 #67
AND They are very concerned with Hillary's health ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #69
Cali Turin_C3PO Aug 2016 #72
So criticism of Hillary is allowed... I was unaware that supporting DEMOCRATS had been Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #82
I prefer not to criticize her Turin_C3PO Aug 2016 #83
I agree with you...I was being sarcastic Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #84
Also, let me just say for the record Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #85
thank you. Not only did i never join it, I blasted the hate. And I was attacked there in much the cali Aug 2016 #88
You posted there frequently. Now you're saying you never joined? yardwork Aug 2016 #94
I said nothing of the sort. I said fucking clearly I was frequently attacked there cali Aug 2016 #98
I guess Clinton isn't the only one with likeability, trust and transparency issues. betsuni Aug 2016 #97
They're drifting back here ... NanceGreggs Aug 2016 #79
Seriously? You're comparing JPR to Jonestown? NurseJackie Aug 2016 #99
That's exactly what it is. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #74
1000+ Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #109
Definitely. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2016 #68
Are you voting for Hillary? nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #102
Seems to me that she and her advisors have a handle Cary Aug 2016 #70
Seems to me that she and her advisors have a handle Cary Aug 2016 #71
Your concern concerning this concern is concerning. eom MohRokTah Aug 2016 #73
Your concern is duly noted, again. Loki Aug 2016 #77
I trust Hillary with taking charge of this country and being a great President. kimbutgar Aug 2016 #78
More testimonials from public figures with impeccable reputations andym Aug 2016 #86
Thank you so much for your concern, Cali! NastyRiffraff Aug 2016 #91
Trump will have to have a lot more people turn out then ever before in any election. Won't happen. Rex Aug 2016 #96
I agree. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2016 #112
No more untill after election. Even if she held one a day, imo you'll never 'like' her. Sunlei Aug 2016 #115
Wrong. She has a trust deficit because people keep announcing that she is untrustworthy. pnwmom Aug 2016 #118
It seems opinions have changed... SixString Sep 2016 #122
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