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Demsrule86

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47. I don't give a damn about blaming.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 12:46 AM
Sep 2016

The point is if you want a progressive agenda then don't be a one issue voter...and as soon as you don't get your way...bail...it is that simple. We have gotten nothing accomplished because we did not stick together and fight for it...As for activists who are not Democrats ...they do more damage than good and that is a fact. They accomplish nothing....nada. The young voters are mostly clueless which is sad because they have the most to lose...and we do them no favors letting them wallow in unreal expectations...they need a dose of reality. You will never get everything you want but we can make progress if we work at it together, and if any of them were real issue voters and cared about the environment or any of the issues they are so passionate about (supposedly) ,they would vote for the Democrat...and as for jaded... I am not jaded at all...I am excited about this election. I really like Hillary... the first woman president is about to be elected...I feel great about the election. And I have known no one who called young voters 'meddling kids'. The candidate they like lost...boo hoo. I loved loved Howard Dean, but I still sucked it up and voted for Kerry and worked for Kerry. I have three kids that are of voting age. Two like Bernie and one liked both Hillary and Bernie. All are voting for Hillary Clinton. I would never call my kids 'meddling'. But they have a brain and care about others and their future...and if you are voting third party with a monster like Trump running then you don't have a brain or a heart... it is a completely selfish act.

This seems like a overreaction, no offense Charles Bukowski Sep 2016 #1
I hope you are right. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #2
+1 demmiblue Sep 2016 #18
The truth is ... NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #27
Don't know how it is, Burch, but every time I read one Hortensis Sep 2016 #62
+1! BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #63
Well said. I feel the same way. Condescended to. yardwork Sep 2016 #64
:) SO misguided. We are a magnificently diverse coalition Hortensis Sep 2016 #65
I agree with you wholeheartedly, Ken. NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #3
I don't want to go to that site. And there's nothing that would win over people Ken Burch Sep 2016 #4
And again it comes down to ... NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #6
Not coddled-and-placated...approached on the level of reason and respect. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #7
We saw this in 2000 Gothmog Sep 2016 #12
This year is different. This year, we have a much better platform Ken Burch Sep 2016 #20
Those who are planning to vote for a third party candidate or Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #30
By that logic, there's no point in even mentioning them. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #41
Those who are voting third party hate Hillary mostly. Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #49
There is no way to reason with some of these folks...and they don't belong here so we can't win Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #14
If you can't reason with them, you can't win them over through abuse, either. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #24
I don't give a damn about them. Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #29
I have actually never called out any supporter of a third party candidate although they deserve it. Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #31
Win them over? How about they grow up and support the D nominee stopbush Sep 2016 #19
"Why not try it" NastyRiffraff Sep 2016 #21
Actually, we've never tried it. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #23
That will never happen and Stein Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #32
Ok. Then point out that Stein said that. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #39
Here you go: Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #58
I meant use it as part of the argument for voting Clinton-Kaine. n/t. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #61
The primaries are over. JTFrog Sep 2016 #34
This has nothing to do with the primaries. The primaries are the past. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #40
Reason and respect? NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #25
!!! zappaman Sep 2016 #26
Agree 100%. Fuck that noise. NT JTFrog Sep 2016 #36
Amen NastyRiffraff Sep 2016 #45
Well said. nt JTFrog Sep 2016 #8
Brava! SticksnStones Sep 2016 #9
Wonderful Post as always. nt Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #16
You don't want to go to that site ANY MORE, I think you mean. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #50
They wanted me to join(I knew some of them here), but I never did. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #53
So I'm supposed to take you at your word? Despite the content of your posts? BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #54
Yes, you are supposed to take me at your word. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #55
Sure, you don't HAVE to prove anything. It just leaves the evidence I have that you participated BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #56
I never participated in anything on JPR. I opposed HRC in the primaries, but never hated her. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #60
Another Great Post by Nance Gothmog Sep 2016 #11
I will say Armstead is doing just that at JPR...making the the case why one should vote for Hillary Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #57
And taking a lot of flack for doing so. NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #59
In danger of the Grifter-in-Chief rethug candidate. ffr Sep 2016 #5
A vote for stein or Johnson is a vote for trump Gothmog Sep 2016 #10
If just repeating that phrase worked, the Stein and Johnson numbers would be dropping Ken Burch Sep 2016 #44
People who are supporting third party candidates are Trump supporters Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #13
On this we can agree - K&R CajunBlazer Sep 2016 #15
I would also like to bring up the "hold her feet" comment..." Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #17
Progressives weren't to blame for that at all. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #22
"No one on the left was allowed anywhere near the Oval Office ... NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #28
It isn't about me. Stop always personalizing and trivializing. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #37
Uh, Ken ... NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #46
Nancy your posts rock. Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #48
The lesson is support your president. Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #35
I don't defend not voting. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #38
how do you expect anything to get done Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #42
OK, but the responsibility to prevent non-voting goes both ways: Ken Burch Sep 2016 #43
I don't give a damn about blaming. Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #47
Those who are thinking of voting third party this fall.... NCTraveler Sep 2016 #33
Your first complete sentence and last complete sentence really does say it all. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #51
Thanks Ken. If for nothing else the Supreme Court will be determined for the next still_one Sep 2016 #52
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