2016 Postmortem

MSMITH33156

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55. Yep...

Wed Nov 2, 2016, 07:25 AM

Nov 2016

that's the answer. Really, the difference between 2012 and today is that Virginia and Colorado are basically gone and have been for months. Those were very competitive in 2012, so a possible map would have been what you posted, with Romney winning VA or CO (even losing IA in that scenario) and winning the presidency. Essentially, Hillary is starting +22 in EVs that are leaning her way versus Obama in 2008. Which means the GWB Republican strategy of winning Ohio and Florida as the winning path for a Republican no longer exists.

So Trump is throwing a Hail Mary. Frankly, he should have done this earlier. It's hard if not impossible to spin off and flip a state this late.

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Why is Trump campaigning in blue states? WI, MI, CO, etc.? What does he hope to gain by this? [View all] RBInMaine Nov 2016 OP

He's trying to find the whitest states he can flip. writes3000 Nov 2016 #2

there's your answer, folks Divine Discontent Nov 2016 #45

this Joe941 Nov 2016 #59

WI so Paul Ryan can be blamed for his loss nt geek tragedy Nov 2016 #3

According to CNN, Ryan didnt even know that Trumper had arrived. factfinder_77 Nov 2016 #22

He can't win unless he makes a blue state red. Avalux Nov 2016 #4

Yup he sure is wasting his time !!! And money (supposedly) and this will all of been just a big TrekLuver Nov 2016 #5

Because he needs at least one of those states to get to 270. yellowcanine Nov 2016 #6

He can't win without them. Dem2 Nov 2016 #7

The dumb ass finally woke up to the fact that he needs non deplorables workinclasszero Nov 2016 #8

If the poll results today hold he would still need to turn one blue State to Red. napi21 Nov 2016 #9

The Grand Wizard of Midtown figured out that he needs Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #10

Trying to catch us sleeping Awsi Dooger Nov 2016 #12

WI and MI have republican governors who control election procedures Hannahcares Nov 2016 #13

Good point. And scary. n/t pnwmom Nov 2016 #49

And I don't trust Govs. Walker or Snyder any farther than I can throw them. bulloney Nov 2016 #52

mailing lists for trump tv and his other scam artist b.s. post-election? Tom Rivers Nov 2016 #15

He knows FLorida is lost. If true, then the only way to win is BlueStreak Nov 2016 #17

Hillary still wins unless Trump can flip one of those "strongly leaning Clinton" states. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #19

Trump knows he can't win at this point. By how much is the question now. GOTV Coyotl Nov 2016 #24

Just to be clear, I posted that map as a "worst case scenario" to offer... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #25

Cool map BlueCollar Nov 2016 #28

dKos election forecast: Coyotl Nov 2016 #30

thanks BlueCollar Nov 2016 #54

Yep... MSMITH33156 Nov 2016 #55

My guess is he knows the map is shrinking and he needs to flip a blue state to have any chance... Drunken Irishman Nov 2016 #26

two answers, but first we have to separate "Trump"/"he" from "The Trump Campaign"/"he" 0rganism Nov 2016 #32

I agree. I'm sure it's his staff pushing Trump toward those states. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #33

and that ("speak solely in parts (of) Alabama") will start in mid-November 0rganism Nov 2016 #35

I still think "Trump TV" might happen. The biggest argument against it that I've seen... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #36

oh absolutely it will happen 0rganism Nov 2016 #37

LOL! Yep! n/t Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #38

Isn't there already RT? greymattermom Nov 2016 #39

Maybe, but that might be too obvious because of what the "R" represents. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #40

I trust no one has told him that every time someone mentions the word "email," another million anamandujano Nov 2016 #43

An audience for Trump TV and media empire. nt tblue37 Nov 2016 #34

best bets for disaffected bluecollar white males DeminPennswoods Nov 2016 #41

He must own properties in them , so he can make some money apcalc Nov 2016 #42

Perhaps the pollster whom he's supposedly refusing to pay the $750k owed to the company... Princess Turandot Nov 2016 #46

In his own mind, BlueMTexpat Nov 2016 #47

He is desperate Norbert Nov 2016 #48

Maybe Republican voter suppression in swing states is farther along than we know DFW Nov 2016 #53

Is he still sticking close to his properties? Orsino Nov 2016 #60

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