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2016 Postmortem

In reply to the discussion: Not ready to make nice [View all]

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
8. There can be no "bipartisanship" with right-wingnuts
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 04:41 AM
Nov 2016

The Dems notion that "pivoting to the middle" or declaring intention to "reach across the aisle" is somehow a "winning strategy" is one of the most misguided and destructive notions the DC Dems have every had.

And they are so damn committed to the insanity.

As the Repubs have been racing toward looney town, the Dems just keep chasing after them to "stay in middle."

One problem. They've completely lost sight of the liberal/progressive starting point that supposedly anchors the "spectrum."

And, fighting for "something I think the Republicans will let me do" is not particularly inspiring.

American's are desperate for representatives who inspire us and show us we can "make dreams come true." Like free college. Like universal healthcare. Like pardons for all who are, or were ever, imprisoned for possession of drugs for personal use. Like restoring the right to vote to all felons. Go Big!

What people want is someone who says "Hey, Join Me! I will fight to get you a whole loaf of bread. I can't do it alone. Elect the others who are committed to getting a whole loaf and we will make it happen.

What Dems give us are so called "leaders" who tell us, "Hey, Join Me! I can, perhaps, get four slices of that loaf you wanted... Or... eh... seems 'the other side' says four is too many, but, hey, well, get behind me and I'll 'reach across the aisle' and get you one slice (maybe, if it's a really small slice)."

As Lewis Rothschild put it (character in "The American President," 1994):

People want leadership, Mr. President, and in the absence of genuine leadership, they'll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone. They want leadership. They're so thirsty for it they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand.


Trump could never have arisen, had the Dems not left such a giant vacuum.

So, what now?

Step 1, elect Hill;

Step 2, fight like hell to make her see she must "Go Big." Help her realize it's futile to "reach out" to the destructive obstructionists known as House and Senate Republicans. Help her see we are out here, and that there are so many others who would be inspired to act, if she just stopped with the "bipartisan" crap, and went all out for some big things, and called on us to help her purge the House and Senate of any who are determined to stop us in 2018.
Not ready to make nice [View all] DonCoquixote Nov 2016 OP
I hear you clearly, and that is all good and fine, but first we have to get her in still_one Nov 2016 #1
If we want... pat_k Nov 2016 #21
Sorry, but DonConquixote is very wrong. Our nation Hortensis Nov 2016 #29
with all due respect DonCoquixote Nov 2016 #31
In short, there can be no bipartisanship... pat_k Nov 2016 #34
It is not a left/moderate/right "divide." It's more like this: pat_k Nov 2016 #33
Hear, hear! Glamrock Nov 2016 #2
AMEN....n/t BlueCollar Nov 2016 #5
I have not wanted to make nice with them since the Impeachment of President Bill Clinton. William769 Nov 2016 #6
There can be no "bipartisanship" with right-wingnuts pat_k Nov 2016 #8
Trust. Hillary knows exactly what shes doing. She is more qualified bushisanidiot Nov 2016 #10
Well said. nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2016 #13
We've got to elect her... pat_k Nov 2016 #19
short term leads to long term DonCoquixote Nov 2016 #25
Agree! UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #14
Go nuclear in the Senate. They are beyond redemption. BSdetect Nov 2016 #16
Absolutely. Demonstrations of real strength... pat_k Nov 2016 #24
Playing nice to evil never works out MyNameGoesHere Nov 2016 #26
to the alt-right types, I agree. But a substantial portion, if not most of the GE Trump voters, ericson00 Nov 2016 #45
which means that when the "sensible people" DonCoquixote Nov 2016 #48
Nothing but complete and utter annihilation of the GOP as it's constituted right now will do Blaukraut Nov 2016 #46
Normally I would have hated to say that DonCoquixote Nov 2016 #49
Exactly! Let's not normalize them by reaching across the aisle. The GOP needs a total overhaul. Blaukraut Nov 2016 #50
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