2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Not ready to make nice [View all]DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)"But, even without the threat from them, the reality is that no one side can rule. The current viciously partisan electoral attempts at power-grabbing by each side are not just unworkable and unsustainable, but dangerously destabilizing. As we see. "
"The only way we can regain successful government is by rejecting divisive political bigotry and embracing all those who want to restore our working bipartisan/multifactional majority."
OK, I am moderating my tone because I do not want you to think I am shouting at you. However, I think you are not seeign certain key factors, which I will point out.
As long as there are Billionaires ready to leak massive amounts of fuel to the GOP, the GOP knows that they will never have to come to this place where they have to even listen to anyone not them. As bas as Trump is, he was at least honest about what he wanted, which made him a big target. The danger will come when you get the more typical GOP that knows the successful Wolf has to wear sheep's clothing. This is where Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, and John Kasich get to stay in their bunker, get loot from the Addelsons and Koches of the world. Let's also add in the foreign money that, unlike Russian money, will be wrapped in a nice neat little package it would take actual journalists to unwrap (such as Beijing and Riyadh do so well.) As long as the true snipers and irregulars can hide in the hills it will take aggressive action to force them out, anything less will see a repeat of 2000, where W. offered himself as that "compassionate conservative" that was as much as object of hate for the "alt-Right" as Clinton.
I am not saying one side can, or even should rule. While the Chinese and Russians may have done some impressive tricks, they also are little more than dictatorships clothed in silk. When they fall, they fall HARD, especially when the facts their Minsitries of propaganda hide eventually come forth. However, if there is going to be tension between left and right gears, there has to be actual tension, not some professional wrestling sort of fake combat where everyone knows their role and shuts their mouth, to quote the Rock. The fact is, if the Democrats do not put forth a stance that says clearly "We are going to fight to win" then all this noble sentiment tells the GOP is that "hey, we can take the whole loaf, especially as we can snipe at them from up in the hills." That does not mean we have to purge or even demonize, it simply means that we do not go into this going this expecting them to get any more than the 49 percent of the loaf that the loser of the election deserves. We have wanted to start off giving half the loaf form the outset, and then act surprised when we get swiftboated, snipershot, and the GOP runs off with our bread, and whatever they could loot from our bleeding corpse.
There may have been a time when the GOP thought of us as opponent, the boxer at the other end of the ring. Money has changed that, and when we see them replace boxing gloves with brass knuckles, not making an adjustment is not sporting, it is suicide. For those that want an actual clean boxing match, we can have that, but when the Koches and other throw brass knuckles into the ring let us not pretend that most of the folks on the Red Team are playing by the same rules we do.