2016 Postmortem

guillaumeb

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9. So does "it" reduce to misogyny?

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 07:37 PM

Nov 2016

Because that is what the elusive "it" sounds like.

Because when I hear talk about personality and mannerisms and tactics, that sounds like coded language.

And I recognize that you are talking about how you perceived that these working class whites perceived her.

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First OP since the election..."Fool me once, shame on you... [View all] Barack_America Nov 2016 OP

Thank you for articulating many of my same thoughts. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #1

THANK YOU! 'I supported Obama early in 2008 because I witnessed, and understood first-hand, elleng Nov 2016 #2

Why didn't the super delegates see it as well? Punkingal Nov 2016 #3

Because they are their own electorates. Barack_America Nov 2016 #7

When some of them voted opposite their states... TCJ70 Nov 2016 #25

The superdelegates KNEW that Bernie would NEVER win a general election NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #35

They also KNEW Hillary would win...how'd that work out? /nt TCJ70 Nov 2016 #40

This election is a death wish come true for me... MyNameIsKhan Nov 2016 #4

A question: guillaumeb Nov 2016 #5

It's not something that is easily explained... Barack_America Nov 2016 #6

So does "it" reduce to misogyny? guillaumeb Nov 2016 #9

It certain reduces to that, but there is something else there too... Barack_America Nov 2016 #11

Nicely put. And agreed. eom guillaumeb Nov 2016 #13

Exactly, it has nothing to do with policy. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #29

Let me try. Obama had none of her baggage, was way more likable, and was a much better campaigner mtnsnake Nov 2016 #8

All about the messenger rather than the message? guillaumeb Nov 2016 #10

It must be pointed out that Obama ran prior to the Shelby County v. Holder decision. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #30

I agree, to some people, Hillary was fatally flawed Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #12

I disagree that Hillary was our best shot. I think she was the most vulnerable of all our candidates mtnsnake Nov 2016 #14

Bernie vs Trump would have been really interesting Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #15

Yes, for sure the GOP would have labeled him a Commie immediately mtnsnake Nov 2016 #16

Republicans were ready to go after Bernie. LisaL Nov 2016 #17

I am grateful for the opportunity to respond to your post. Barack_America Nov 2016 #18

It's certainly possible! I think it would have been a great and better debate than what we had... Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #23

Yet another liquid diamond Nov 2016 #19

He won Michigan and Wisconsin. Barack_America Nov 2016 #20

Yet he lost PA, VA, OH, NC, FL, NV. SaschaHM Nov 2016 #22

"Did you expect the millions of more people that went for Hillary to just fall in line" TCJ70 Nov 2016 #24

I love how they assume that everyone that supported Hillary during the primary would have come out.. SaschaHM Nov 2016 #21

Spot on Lotusflower70 Nov 2016 #26

No Visits To Wisconsin SoCalMusicLover Nov 2016 #32

Mind boggling Lotusflower70 Nov 2016 #34

I brought up that exact same thing here today SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #37

It may sound like ageism on my part but I think we need to rid ourselves of the oldsters. randome Nov 2016 #27

While Hillary had her issues with appealing to some voters, Bernie had far bigger issues... NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #28

You are spot on! Enthusiasm, populist economics, rural America, and fighting the oligarchy WINS!!! RBInMaine Nov 2016 #31

Nothing Clinton ever did was good enough. joshcryer Nov 2016 #33

I think so too, I think they were unwinable for her... Barack_America Nov 2016 #36

She won four million more votes in the primary. joshcryer Nov 2016 #38

Bullshit, if she had been campaigning in the area the whole time instead of a last ditch reaction TheKentuckian Nov 2016 #39

Why do you think the "white working class" doesn't like Hillary? DanTex Nov 2016 #41

See post #11. Barack_America Nov 2016 #43

Agreed 100%. Wisconsin resident here and it was obvious to me as well Arazi Nov 2016 #42