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MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
34. More Reagan than Reagan.
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 03:19 PM
Apr 2013

Reagan is the father of modern American fascism and yet on several important issues he seems more enlightened and left leaning than Obama in retrospect. Richard Nixon was flat out liberal in comparison.

This is bad. We have to stop pretending that we aren't being sold down the river by our "own" people. There hasn't been one President on the side of the People since Carter and he was suspect as well. He was the one that started taxing unemployment benefits after all.

Reagan/Bush started the ball rolling with their trickle down voodoo economics, Clinton fucked us further with NAFTA and Wall Street deregulation, the Chimp took supply side economics to disastrous levels and now we have Obama "leaving the past in the past" and gutting the safety net.

And there's always an excuse, even when we have majorities in both houses there are never enough votes to do the right thing but always votes to spare on the wrong things. And that's because the leadership of this party is just as bought off and compromised as the entire Republican Party. The policies that would actually fix our problems aren't even considered, they're dismissed out of hand.

We need to face the facts. We have no representation anymore. The progressive caucus and senators like Liz Warren and Bernie Sanders have no power. And they're the only ones that get it right.

Doing the right thing on social issues is great, those are the bones they throw at us and say "See, he's a liberal" while our balls get cut off economically. The economy is the biggest social issue and making most of the Bush tax cuts permanent in exchange for a pittance in revenue is not progressive. Offering to cut Medicare and SS in exchange for a pittance in revenue is not progressive. I'm just sick of these third way "Democrats" not giving a fuck about us. I'm sick of the bullshit and excuses. I'm sick of starting negotiations at the point where any compromise ends up deep in the right wing's wheelhouse.

When do we ever stake out a position and make them come to us? Never. It's always sliding to the right, always appeasing them. I'm just fed up with the whole charade.

Poll: Had enough of Obama, yet? [View all] jerseyjack Apr 2013 OP
Your list demwing Apr 2013 #1
Two crap choices. nt riqster Apr 2013 #2
Some can't think objectively. liberal N proud Apr 2013 #3
Well, make up our own damn poll. Its easy. jerseyjack Apr 2013 #5
My answer was "At least it ain't Romney". riqster Apr 2013 #7
+1 walkerbait41 Apr 2013 #57
+1 I flinch just thinking about that. wandy Apr 2013 #59
Anyone thinks that a Republican would be better must be on meth. LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #68
+1 nt riqster Apr 2013 #69
My other polls had several choices which deluted the results. jerseyjack Apr 2013 #4
You are successful creon Apr 2013 #64
you forgot the option Champion Jack Apr 2013 #6
+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #10
I hold Obama in much higher regard than pollsters. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2013 #8
Another DU poll. As worthless as they come. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #9
I think Obama needs to grow up and quit trying to please everybody.... Jade Fox Apr 2013 #11
I agree, I often think he's too much of a people pleaser. I recall well when I took RKP5637 Apr 2013 #52
ya think? creon Apr 2013 #65
Think by now the Obama naggers would have their own popular messageboard, guess hobbits... Sunlei Apr 2013 #12
I heard there's one under an elm tree somewhere. NYC Liberal Apr 2013 #15
Ah yes, and we all know how bullshit fertilizes the trees Hekate Apr 2013 #47
Still the best President bocephus0706 Apr 2013 #13
Can't even begin to list the idiocies in this post. juajen Apr 2013 #21
We're supposed to live longer, and work less, and collect more... immoderate Apr 2013 #26
Poll: Had enough of bullshit polls, yet? NYC Liberal Apr 2013 #14
A long time ago. GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #16
+1000 Rosco T. Apr 2013 #17
Yes! sakabatou Apr 2013 #19
Yup! Agschmid Apr 2013 #25
This post wins this rather lame and carping thread! nt MADem Apr 2013 #31
look at the number of people who took a pass at this bs grantcart Apr 2013 #37
I'd vote yes on that one davidpdx Apr 2013 #44
I'd vote for him again. sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #18
Me, too. nt MADem Apr 2013 #32
Yep! No president is perfect. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #53
Obama will be one of the best presidents this country has ever witnessed. Trashing thread! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #20
you don't give your left nut enough credit. nt limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #22
Shit, I just sprayed soda on the iPad. jerseyjack Apr 2013 #24
No selection for: Fine Then, Assholes! Vote Republican From Now On! Aristus Apr 2013 #23
Hey, I got an idea. Why not vote for a better Democrat? jerseyjack Apr 2013 #27
Why not vote for an Independent, then? Like Ralph Nader? Aristus Apr 2013 #38
Why would you equate Senator Warren to an Independent? Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #50
+1,000 nt MADem Apr 2013 #30
Satisfactory, not great n/t dtotire Apr 2013 #28
No not really Shivering Jemmy Apr 2013 #29
Can everyone agree he's the best since Bill Clinton? LeftInTX Apr 2013 #33
Yes I can get behind this endorsement. Best Pres. since Clinton limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #41
Yep!!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #54
More Reagan than Reagan. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #34
This poll is shit. n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #35
You conveniently didn't add: Cha Apr 2013 #36
Y'all are less then three months into the second term alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #39
This poll is awesome. bigwillq Apr 2013 #40
. dionysus Apr 2013 #42
Had to pass... tarheelsunc Apr 2013 #43
Would you prefer the other choice? and-justice-for-all Apr 2013 #45
There's a huge gap between disagreeing with the president and supporting impeachment Rhiannon12866 Apr 2013 #46
The OP is not suggesting impeachment all at UBEEDelusional Apr 2013 #48
Need more information about that left nut, before I vote. n/t rucky Apr 2013 #49
The trouble with polls like this is, they are statistically skewered to the OP point of view graham4anything Apr 2013 #51
How long will the tantrums continue? MjolnirTime Apr 2013 #55
The only way the Reps would accept chained CPI is alfredo Apr 2013 #56
You are giving up on your child who has a serious illness riverbendviewgal Apr 2013 #58
"People get the government they deserve" Doc_Technical Apr 2013 #60
I can't believe how little people pay attention WeekendWarrior Apr 2013 #61
Nope. Splinter Cell Apr 2013 #62
No creon Apr 2013 #63
More nonsense from the TeaLeft extreme wing of extremity. RBInMaine Apr 2013 #66
Another dumbazz poll. Enough already. appacom Apr 2013 #67
Imagine how awful a president he would be... Orsino Apr 2013 #70
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