2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Elizabeth Warren [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)If Clinton gets hit by a bus, she might consider it.
But that's the ONLY circumstance that would put EW in the mix.
And if that happened, all I can say is, say hello to President Chris Christie. He's a better debater and he has very good campaign trail instincts--I don't think he'd let the RNC run his campaign, and if the far right went too far off the rails, he'd publicly disavow specific conducts, and garner crossover support as a consequence. He'd keep the wingnut votes while calling them out. He is a real danger, and anyone who dismisses him is whistling in the dark.
The ONLY Dem strong enough to wipe the floor with him--and make him look like the bully he is--is HRC.
And if Bernie ran, it would be a "vanity" campaign. He's too old, he's too far to the left, most Americans have no frigging clue who he is (Golly gee, is that Admiral Stockdale? I thought he was dead?) and he'd be a Nader--a turd in the punch. Personally, I can't see him doing anything quite so stupid--it's a lot of work, and all he'd do is piss off the people (like Hillary Clinton--who gave him MONEY for his Senate run) and he would GUARANTEE that he'd be challenged by a Democratic candidate with Big Promises and Big Money (paybacks are a mutha) and if a compelling Jim Jeffords-type Republican decided to jump in, the vote on the left could be split and a Republican could end up repping VT in the Senate again.
Bernie--unless he's planning on retiring from the Senate (because that would be the end result) at the end of his term in 2018, was running his mouth.
As for HRC, a PAC has been working for some time, it's called "Ready for Hillary." It has raised a bundle already--and most of the donations are from small donors, the five, ten, twenty five dollar crowd.
Warren's STAFF is saying "She's not running." If she were even entertaining a run, they'd be coy. And if she were even entertaining a run, there would be a PAC fired up and visible, vocal and organized support from senior people in the party, and there's none of that.
There's none of that.... because she isn't running.
You can't force people to do things they don't want to do. Maybe EW doesn't want her first marriage dragged through the mud, maybe she doesn't want to re-endure some of the shit flung at her by Scott Brown, maybe she wants to protect members of her family...or maybe, just maybe, working as a chief executive is not her area of interest--who knows why she doesn't want the job? All we know is that she has said, clearly, that she doesn't want the job, isn't interested, no-no-no-no-no, etc. This is something she doesn't want to do--and I don't understand why people don't believe her.
I suspect half of the "Ewwww--Warren for President!" noise is coming from rightwingers in the media, who love to raise hell and play that divide and conquer game. Ask yourself the question, in all sincerity: Who benefits from a Warren candidacy? It's not the Democratic Party as a whole. It's the left wing of the Democratic Party, who will have a candidate to cheer on (until she disappoints them with a stance they find troubling--and she will do that, they all do--look at how far "darling of the left" Obama has fallen; he gets so much shit on this board I sometimes think the place has been hacked by those Freeper nuts), and the Republican Party, who know they can beat her with a triangulating candidate like Christie.