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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Elizabeth Warren [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)103. Find me six examples of HRC saying NO. No-no-no-no.
I do not want to run. I have no interest in running. Relax--I'm not running....and then maybe I'll believe you. You can't, because she wisely stayed apolitical while she was serving as SECSTATE. She simply refused to entertain any discussion of the topic.
You can't use a cabinet job (and cabinet transportation, security, and expenses for local police, etc.) as a launching pad for your next campaign--it violates a number of campaign finance laws.
Cherry picking "I have no PLANS to run" from a 2006 or earlier interview (while her staff murmured "Dont count her out" , and an attempt to play gotcha on a sitting cabinet official by a Today Show hack just isn't the same thing.
Of course, we can be obtuse and pretend that it is, but it ain't.
"Enough people" aren't going to support Warren--she's not to everyone's taste. Don't shoot the messenger. EW's message works in MA--it doesn't work in TX, OK, FL and other states we need to win.
You can bet about what you think HRC might support or not support all you want (you're certainly exercising that perogative with EW, I notice). You can even go to a town hall and ask her, if she campaigns near you. But that has nothing to do with perception of her as a candidate, so rail away, it makes no difference.
I certainly hope that, since you take such stock in what my senator has to say, that when EW comes out in support for HRC, that you'll listen to her and cast your vote for the one who can win.
And maybe you'll believe what she said just this past week:
You can't use a cabinet job (and cabinet transportation, security, and expenses for local police, etc.) as a launching pad for your next campaign--it violates a number of campaign finance laws.
Cherry picking "I have no PLANS to run" from a 2006 or earlier interview (while her staff murmured "Dont count her out" , and an attempt to play gotcha on a sitting cabinet official by a Today Show hack just isn't the same thing.
Of course, we can be obtuse and pretend that it is, but it ain't.
"Enough people" aren't going to support Warren--she's not to everyone's taste. Don't shoot the messenger. EW's message works in MA--it doesn't work in TX, OK, FL and other states we need to win.
You can bet about what you think HRC might support or not support all you want (you're certainly exercising that perogative with EW, I notice). You can even go to a town hall and ask her, if she campaigns near you. But that has nothing to do with perception of her as a candidate, so rail away, it makes no difference.
I certainly hope that, since you take such stock in what my senator has to say, that when EW comes out in support for HRC, that you'll listen to her and cast your vote for the one who can win.
And maybe you'll believe what she said just this past week:
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One comment is one comment, it's not enough--nor is it fair to her--to 'decide' what she
MADem
Nov 2013
#43
Mr. "I consistently want H-1B outsourcing in legislation over the years" Chuck Shumer?
cascadiance
Nov 2013
#69
I'm sorry but many tech workers like myself will NOT support those that want to TAKE AWAY their jobs
cascadiance
Nov 2013
#87
I paid close attention to Warren's race, and did my (little) bit to help get her elected.
MADem
Nov 2013
#55
Yes, you are right that experience does matter, which IS why Elizabeth Warren is best qualified!
cascadiance
Nov 2013
#70
Why do so many want term limits now? They DON'T LIKE the wrong kind of POLITICAL experience!!
cascadiance
Nov 2013
#78
Even Bernie Sanders is now "reconsidering" running for president after saying "no"...
cascadiance
Nov 2013
#83
Again you give NO issue reasons to support Hillary Clinton, just RATIONALIZED numbers...
cascadiance
Nov 2013
#91
You didn't once ASK for any "reasons." Don't move the goalposts and expect me to be cowed.
MADem
Nov 2013
#97
True; so what do you think of what she said about '16? She has said "no" this time.
7962
Nov 2013
#94
I somehow doubt a president Clinton would appoint Warren as AG but that would be interesting. n/t
PoliticAverse
Nov 2013
#26
I agree. I think Hillary should put ALL her support behind a Warren presidential run.
jtuck004
Nov 2013
#25
I call your 2 cents and raise you 2. 1. The middle class cant wait for Sen Warren
rhett o rick
Nov 2013
#62
"We didn't fight for a Public Option because Lieberman said he was going to vote against it, so we
rhett o rick
Nov 2013
#73
Feinstein proved the kabuki theater agenda when 2013 started and fillibuster rule changes in the mix
cascadiance
Nov 2013
#92
I see the Republicans cheering for the Democrats to nominate/neutralize/disengage her
libdem4life
Nov 2013
#24
Just watched her again. She is a teacher/professor/economist/intellectual just incidently a woman
libdem4life
Nov 2013
#37
No. I'm aware of her background and I stand by my opionion that such an appointment is unlikely. n/t
PoliticAverse
Nov 2013
#49
Berkeley doesn't have SCHOLARS like Warren speak if they are "inexperienced"...
cascadiance
Nov 2013
#71
My 'lacks the experience' comment was about the possibility of her being nonimated as Fed Chair
PoliticAverse
Nov 2013
#105
Dreamer! If Clinton or Christie win, they wont touch Sen Warren. Larry Summers would
rhett o rick
Nov 2013
#63
Agreed. She's already crashing through an old Senate ceiling as a "newbie" speaking to the entire
libdem4life
Nov 2013
#23
I know that the highest accolade we can offer is to say we want her as President
tavalon
Nov 2013
#30
Any elected official who says: "I've looked at the data and it shows..."
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2013
#40