2016 Postmortem

djean111

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25. My crystal ball says - TPP. TPP is TODAY, not senate votes from years ago. TODAY.

Thu Feb 12, 2015, 07:20 AM

Feb 2015

Where she is today is what is important to me. And a person who helped write a corporate giveaway like the TPP, and shills for it, is not the same person who charted to the left of Kennedy years ago. I don't care how many links to old votes and sound bites and little old charts are displayed. I look at the TPP and the hawkishness of today.
Bringing up women's and children's rights? Fine. How will those women and children be affected by the TPP/TTIP? And - do we give the presidency as a sort of prize for that?

FFS, she can't even articulate a palatable message on the crap economy without 200 advisers. When she does, it will just be whatever her advisers have told her to say. There is no THERE there, IMO. She is the Wall Street darling. All the blue links in the world cannot distract from that.

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Hillary will most likely be the Dem nominee. That's just the fact. And she'd be DAMN good ! [View all] RBInMaine Feb 2015 OP

And quite a few heads will explode on DU if and when that happens still_one Feb 2015 #1

Nah. HappyMe Feb 2015 #5

This is what I think is going to happen: HRC will have minimal ground game, it will be played out leveymg Feb 2015 #2

Yes, damn good for Wallstreeters, but not for mainstreeters. The Dems can do MUCH better. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #3

Another Clinton? guillaumeb Feb 2015 #4

There is a bit of a logic error or something like that, here: djean111 Feb 2015 #11

while I think every bit of what you added is on the mark guillaumeb Feb 2015 #13

I understand completely. Really. djean111 Feb 2015 #24

She's liberal on social issues. Unfathomable that she'd appoint a Roberts or Alito emulatorloo Feb 2015 #29

Agree. That false and demeaning meme, like all their false and demeaning memes, doesn't stand up to merrily Feb 2015 #26

She inspires most young women One of the 99 Feb 2015 #12

and that is a tremendous factor guillaumeb Feb 2015 #14

Clinton is TOUGH, has the experience, and is brilliant DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #6

Yes-we had our 8 years of Obama... catnhatnh Feb 2015 #7

There is no doubt she's very qualified and someone to be reckoned with, but > YOHABLO Feb 2015 #8

Umm, really. That's what you've got, she doesn't have enough "balls". Agschmid Feb 2015 #23

you funny AtomicKitten Feb 2015 #9

And until that happens I'll be giving everything I have to fight for Bernie tracks29 Feb 2015 #10

Hillary will run to the right of Obama. And lose. blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #15

Is that all you ever have to say about HRC? Persondem Feb 2015 #18

My crystal ball says - TPP. TPP is TODAY, not senate votes from years ago. TODAY. djean111 Feb 2015 #25

Repeating the usual anti-HRC diatribe does not impress Persondem Feb 2015 #30

I am not trying to impress you in any way. I am stating my opinion. djean111 Feb 2015 #33

Opinions can be informed or not, and your leaps of (il)logic are Fox-worthy. Persondem Feb 2015 #38

Here ya go...... djean111 Feb 2015 #39

Thank you. I get the impression that you didn't read the whole article ... Persondem Feb 2015 #41

The point is that I would have thought she would have an actual position on the economy BY NOW. nt djean111 Feb 2015 #42

Well, either she doesn't have a position or she's reluctant to share it. winter is coming Feb 2015 #43

The economy is not some static entity that you can figure out once and then Persondem Feb 2015 #47

Just sounds to me, then, that Hillary has merely been busy raising money, and djean111 Feb 2015 #50

Yes, I agree she would make a great candidate.... daleanime Feb 2015 #16

More Clinton inevitability talk davidpdx Feb 2015 #17

Sure, she'll be damn good if you love war, are a 1%er, love "free trade"........ PeteSelman Feb 2015 #19

I doubt Jamaal510 Feb 2015 #21

Sure, the mouthbreathers will hate her. PeteSelman Feb 2015 #22

Bingo. truebluegreen Feb 2015 #52

I don't vote for Republicans Ramses Feb 2015 #20

If we're going to get Republican policies, I prefer having a Republican to blame. Scuba Feb 2015 #27

I think you're probably right, and I'd add Proud Public Servant Feb 2015 #28

The only time since 1924 when voter turnout dipped below 50% in a presidential election Art_from_Ark Feb 2015 #40

What's incredible to me about the "inevitability" statements is the underlying self-pity. beerandjesus Feb 2015 #31

this is a reply worthy of an op DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #32

Your post is much better than mine below, LiberalElite Feb 2015 #45

Yup. Exactly. djean111 Feb 2015 #34

One poster wrote about the Republicans pulling the conversation to the right guillaumeb Feb 2015 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Feb 2015 #36

All there is is hype. HappyMe Feb 2015 #37

I'm just curious - LiberalElite Feb 2015 #44

Bullshit Splinter Cell Feb 2015 #46

If Hillary runs... Chan790 Feb 2015 #48

With Hillary as president, the corporations will still be running America. After 8 more years, Cal33 Feb 2015 #49

I won't vote for her, no matter what. If the party wants my vote they'll need to earn it. Republican GoneFishin Feb 2015 #51

Apparently the Republicans don't need to do anything...you'll just give them a vote by default brooklynite Feb 2015 #55

People who don't recognize that the goal of elections is to elect someone to represent our GoneFishin Feb 2015 #57

People who don't recognize that the goal of elections is to pick people to run the Government... brooklynite Feb 2015 #58

Corporate, corporation, corporatist. What did I leave out? Coriander for Cory in Corpus Christie? DFW Feb 2015 #53

Didn't see anything In OP that says she'll be good WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2015 #54

Sander will go independent and I will go with him 4dsc Feb 2015 #56

And if Sanders endorses Clinton, you'll throw him under the bus as well? brooklynite Feb 2015 #59

She was inevitable in 2008, too Carolina Feb 2015 #60