2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Hillary will most likely be the Dem nominee. That's just the fact. And she'd be DAMN good ! [View all]DFW
(54,358 posts)I hear "Corporatist" or some variation thereof more often than I hear "libbrul" from the whacko right.
The nominee will be who it will be, and whoever it will be WILL be better for us and better for the country than any whack job (and it will be) Republican nominee.
The "no difference" crowd were fatally wrong in 2000. I think they are just as wrong now.
The difference might not be (make that: probably won't be) as great as all of us might like, but the results of 8 years in opposition from 2001 to the beginning of 2009 were pretty horrible, and putting Roberts and Alito on the Supreme Court guaranteed Citizens United would be a reality. Things do NOT go better with Koch. You want more clones of Scalia and Alito determining your life? Vote Republican or stay home. You don't? Vote for who you want in the primaries, work your asses off for them, but if they don't win the nomination, you had better hope with all your might that the Republican does not win, and if he does (ain't gonna be a she), not ONE complaint over ANYTHING he does has a shred of validity with me if you didn't vote for the Democratic candidate in 2016. Hold your nose if must, and THEN complain to your heart's delight, but stay home, and risk Rand Paul being in the Oval Office. I promise you, you will like that far less than even (gasp of horror) Hillary.
Full disclosure: my personal preference remains Howard Dean (and I told him so--again--to his face last month). He confirmed to me that the chances of him running are slim and none. For now, I'll dream and hold to slim, but when it turns to none, I'm not going to whine and yell "corporatist!" I'll support whom I consider the best of the lot who are really running in the primaries, and yes, dammit, I'll support the Democratic nominee for President in 2016 because yes, there will be ONE HELL of a difference. Ralph Nader can, as one witty Brit once put it, go "pay a visit on his own behalf to a taxidermist."