2016 Postmortem

merrily

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55. We DESERVE primaries, but our party seems to have decided primaries suck.

Sun Mar 29, 2015, 10:13 PM

Mar 2015

Please indulge me by reading these two posts of mine.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026396835#post7

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6411462

And, if you are still willing to read: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026410455#post183

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My worry list for the Clinton candidacy for President [View all] MaxRobes Mar 2015 OP

Please- do go on notadmblnd Mar 2015 #1

Mmmmmm. Don't tempt me. But I am not trying to hurt the Clintons MaxRobes Mar 2015 #12

Its allright to want a real primary but trashing one of the candidates is not a way Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #29

Well it is if that candidate is standing in the way of having a primary. MaxRobes Mar 2015 #43

Which candidate is standing in the way? Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #45

I believe the Clintons are discouraging the entry of major competitors and do not MaxRobes Mar 2015 #51

Yes, but not only the Clintons, the Party. Please see Reply 55 below. merrily Mar 2015 #56

I think you are wrong, in fact the primary would get any candidate practice in the General Election Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #57

Let me add this, if Hillary or any candidate cant handle the primary then we need a better candidate Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #59

I do not see the gun Hillary has aimed at any other primary candidate QuestionAlways Mar 2015 #65

This has been a conversation on going. I doubt I mentioned a gun. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #70

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i sure wish i could cast a DON'T LIKE the originator post BECAUSE IT STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN trueblue2007 Mar 2015 #71

Well, there you go ... earthside Mar 2015 #78

Challenging? Challenging would be running against Hillary, I am ready for those who Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #79

But as of now, not one is running yet QuestionAlways Mar 2015 #93

And your point is what? MaxRobes Mar 2015 #94

score ! drray23 Mar 2015 #2

I'll debate ageism with you if your 70 years old or older. As to mysogeny MaxRobes Mar 2015 #9

The suggestion that a member of a group can not be prejudiced or otherwise antagonistic... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #98

Accomplishments LeFleur1 Apr 2015 #114

In the age of income inequality I do object. I object to anyone getting $300,000 MaxRobes Mar 2015 #13

I've seen Hillary supporters disparage Warren because of her age davidpdx Apr 2015 #113

Your concern is duly noted. n/t Lil Missy Mar 2015 #3

Robust candidacy of Jeb? Where did you hear that? napi21 Mar 2015 #4

CBS had a poll out this morning with Jeb on top. Pundits expect his 1st qtr funding raising MaxRobes Mar 2015 #16

Not that it's any of your business, but I'm 72! napi21 Mar 2015 #42

Only if you're running for President MaxRobes Mar 2015 #44

No, I'm not running for President! NOT because I'm 72, but because I'm not qualified. napi21 Mar 2015 #87

What if she were 80 or 90? Is an age qualification ever appropriate? MaxRobes Mar 2015 #88

Mentaal & physical abilities are far more important than age. Some people napi21 Mar 2015 #95

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The slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #104

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I am and I support Hillary QuestionAlways Mar 2015 #67

A poll of whom?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #100

Who do you want to win the nomination? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #5

Amy Klobuchar. She is my home state and home town Senator. She is very popular in MaxRobes Mar 2015 #18

She and Warren will not run. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #19

Oh, ugh, not Klobuchar! She speaks well but she has no courage. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #35

Amy has one of the highest approval rating of any sitting Senator and MaxRobes Mar 2015 #54

I don't need to give her a second look. I've already given her The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #58

So Velveteen, after Hillary loses in 2016 and Amy is our candidate in 2020 I'll escort you MaxRobes Mar 2015 #62

I always vote for the Democrat over the Republican. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #66

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Oh, this is a companion piece, is it? Wow. MANative Mar 2015 #6

By "companion piece" I was simply referring to another thread I started on the front MaxRobes Mar 2015 #22

Another Clinton hit piece. Ya'll are on a roll today. leftofcool Mar 2015 #7

I must have trashed the other one. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #8

Let me ask you a question, you talk about Hillary getting paid for her speeches, she's qualified Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #10

$300,000 for a speech is legalized bribery, imo. See reply above. MaxRobes Mar 2015 #23

Let's go with my question, did you worj and did you receive compensation? Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #26

Yes,I worked for pay in the economy for roughly 40 years and was paid fairly MaxRobes Mar 2015 #33

This is what she could command. Attorneys gets paid much more than what i was Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #37

We are all sorry you have no grasp on economics. Think of it this way, FSogol Mar 2015 #40

My grasp of economics allows me to perceive that Bill Clinton wasn't paid MaxRobes Mar 2015 #46

The speaking fees they are paid go to the charity that bears their name QuestionAlways Mar 2015 #69

True only in the exception. They keep the vast majority of the money MaxRobes Mar 2015 #77

You prove my point QuestionAlways Mar 2015 #80

No, but I can do a better job of explaining my point MaxRobes Mar 2015 #83

Anyone who questions Hillary is just parroting Bill Kristol? davidpdx Apr 2015 #112

Bill Clinton won TWICE. McGovern, Carter the second time, Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry LOST. RBInMaine Mar 2015 #11

So did George Bush 4now Mar 2015 #15

Yah Bill won. For his third Party. The Democrats didn't win anything. MaxRobes Mar 2015 #24

Did you forget that following Carter's loss vs Reagan that people were FSogol Mar 2015 #41

Bill's triangulating didn't get the Democrats back in power it got the Clintons in power MaxRobes Mar 2015 #47

+1 Additionally, it's ludicrous to believe that, in 1992 and 1996, most merrily Mar 2015 #63

Hello Merrily, thanks for your reply. I agree with you in part. MaxRobes Mar 2015 #84

I am not sure which part of my post you disagreed with, but thanks. merrily Mar 2015 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Mar 2015 #92

Ross Perot. Incumbency. Plus, Hillary is not Bubba and Bubba is not running again. merrily Mar 2015 #60

You bring up some important things to consider. 4now Mar 2015 #14

There are many problems with your post OKNancy Mar 2015 #17

To clarify, what I argued is that Bill ran and governed as "barely a Democrat" and MaxRobes Mar 2015 #28

Hillary is her own woman. OKNancy Mar 2015 #32

Valid criticisms of the Clintons that encompass Hillary's role in their MaxRobes Mar 2015 #49

That is not how either Bubba or she framed it--except maybe when convenient. merrily Mar 2015 #61

Hello again, Merrily. Here I agree with you 100% MaxRobes Mar 2015 #85

She's Jamaal510 Apr 2015 #110

I'm no Hillary fan but LiberalElite Mar 2015 #20

When I was 65 I thought like you did. Turning seventy cured me of that. MaxRobes Mar 2015 #30

Your experience LiberalElite Mar 2015 #36

I know about 100 people in their seventies. None of them are fit to be president MaxRobes Mar 2015 #50

Your observation is specious. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #99

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Yes and no. No one can predict how anyone is going to age. merrily Mar 2015 #68

Actuarial tables suggest Secretary Of Clinton will live to eighty five years old... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #102

The age at which the average woman is likely to die has nothing to do with what I posted. merrily Apr 2015 #111

Of course you realize you are about to get torn apart by a pack of yapping feral chihuahuas tularetom Mar 2015 #21

so when someone disagrees OKNancy Mar 2015 #25

It isn't a question of an argument being countered tularetom Mar 2015 #53

Yep, as per usual. merrily Mar 2015 #64

And there you have it. The real reason some dems don't like Hillary Buzz cook Apr 2015 #118

Well, they tried the same crap with Obama but none of it stuck tularetom Apr 2015 #119

I've already asked and answered that question. Buzz cook Apr 2015 #120

I should add Buzz cook Apr 2015 #122

Are you referring to the women members of DU? notadmblnd Mar 2015 #27

Hell no, I love the women members of DU tularetom Mar 2015 #48

Thanks. I appreciate that. I love a good debate. And have a thick skin. MaxRobes Mar 2015 #31

+++ swilton Mar 2015 #34

her health is not up to the task of a campaign quadrature Mar 2015 #38

How did you divine "her health is not up to the task of a campaign" ? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #101

I can't predict the future so gwheezie Mar 2015 #39

ha ha ha quickesst Mar 2015 #52

We DESERVE primaries, but our party seems to have decided primaries suck. merrily Mar 2015 #55

Thank you for all of your swilton Mar 2015 #73

Wow, thanks. This must be one of my luckier days. merrily Mar 2015 #74

Yes, thank you. It's undeniable that strong forces within the Democratic establishment MaxRobes Mar 2015 #89

Thank you marym625 Mar 2015 #91

I AM WOMAN........ HEAR ME ROAR you sexist trueblue2007 Mar 2015 #72

I am woman swilton Mar 2015 #75

The Kennedys, Roosevelts, Adams, and Bushes benefited from nepotism as well... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #103

Clearly my original post made you angry. I am sorry about that. MaxRobes Mar 2015 #76

My own "worry list" has noted BlueMTexpat Mar 2015 #81

Like all long time readers / non posters I am subject to "the curse of lurkers" MaxRobes Mar 2015 #86

That will depend on what BlueMTexpat Mar 2015 #96

Fair enough. MaxRobes Mar 2015 #97

I and others have been worried about a Hillary Clinton presidency since 2007. Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #82

You are not the only one who has those concerns... KoKo Apr 2015 #105

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With all due respect Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2015 #117

This concern troll has been banned. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2015 #121

"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely." Myrina Apr 2015 #123