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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]Cha
(296,881 posts)143. Obama's Grace~ The President is an inspiration~
And of course it was. His singing was the aspect of the speech that will be easiest to remember. That is in part because it was so unusual and in part because it was so brave: Obama sang well, but not perfectly. For someone so precise and aspiring-to-perfection in most other realms of achievement, and so obviously hyper-aware of his levels of skill (he told Marc Maron in his remarkable WTF interview that he didnt like playing basketball any more, now that he recognized that age had made him the weakest player on the court), singing like another enthusiastic parishioner, and not like a featured member of the choir, was brave and said something about his comfort with this crowd.
"The choice of grace as the unifying theme, which by the standards of political speeches qualifies as a stroke of genius."
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/grace/397064/
Of course the rwingers hate him bringing together mourners with Grace and Comfort.
Poor Bernie.. his advocates think they have to tear down the President and everyone else to build him up.
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We see all the time here that she changes her positions with the political wind, etc.
George II
Jun 2015
#185
She does. And this doesn't contradict the idea that she's a fallible mortal.
Ken Burch
Jun 2015
#193
Bernie stuck his wet finger in the air and felt the brush of the winds of fate...and changed.
Sheepshank
Jun 2015
#197
Yes there certainly are other candidates. BTW, OP poster have you been out of the country? This
appalachiablue
Jul 2015
#239
I saw posts from Sanders supporters TODAY feeling that he has properly explained his policies on
Number23
Jun 2015
#194
Just so long as Bernie supporters realize that evolving on this matter is already too late.
Sheepshank
Jun 2015
#196
No, I don't think it is EVER too late for people to realize and change--only Republicans think that
MADem
Jun 2015
#201
I was being a little fecisious...of course people should be allowed to evolve.
Sheepshank
Jun 2015
#204
some here took extreme posts and projected them on EVERY instance where someone complained
bigtree
Jun 2015
#3
And defending the demonization of a candidate as indifferent to particular concerns
Ken Burch
Jun 2015
#113
If you're going to be consistent on this, please call on HRC to apologize for helping build the DLC.
Ken Burch
Jun 2015
#110
You wont find it anywhere. It is a convenient strawman to try to shut down discussion of the issue.
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#166
And a poster earlier this week actually accused Bernie of seeking the votes of bigots.
Ken Burch
Jun 2015
#57
"NOT GOOD ENOUGH, BERNIE" OP May 27, 2015 after Sanders Campaign Kickoff Event. Direct flame bait
appalachiablue
Jul 2015
#240
oh you mean like the thread where Hillary doesn't talk incessantly about the environment
Sheepshank
Jun 2015
#198
so your contention is he deliberately lowballed his focus on the black community in his rhetoric
bigtree
Jun 2015
#17
Bernie's issue has been Economics and I hope he's finding out since his statement in 2014 that
Cha
Jun 2015
#99
He's never ever said race doesn't matter. He's just said class matters, too. n/t.
Ken Burch
Jun 2015
#183
I've been in the Bernie group calling on Bernie to talk about this more. I have listened.
Ken Burch
Jun 2015
#23
I'm an O'Malley supporter (not a Clinton supporter) advocating for issues and concerns I believe in
bigtree
Jun 2015
#27
"You can't be part of building the DLC and then later bash other people as not being anti-oppression
kath
Jun 2015
#170
you mean like the lack of priority Hillary has, as described on this thread?
Sheepshank
Jun 2015
#199
"He's had 7 years to crush these societal problems.." Oh yeah, Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Tamir
Cha
Jun 2015
#98
Unfortunately Bernie's supporters on DU are not his best advocates.. this is about Bernie and his
Cha
Jun 2015
#107
Bernie is the one running for President. President Obama's polls are 86% among Liberal Dems..
Cha
Jun 2015
#115
So much of the African American Communiity loves Pres Obama.. I'm not sure about Bernie.
Cha
Jun 2015
#125
You're the only trying to make the President look bad to build up Bernie.. poor Bernie.
Cha
Jun 2015
#132
President Obama is such a beautiful soul. What an amazing successful week our Country has had!
Cha
Jun 2015
#148
You're only trying to make Bernie look bad to build up the most conservative candidate in the race.
Ken Burch
Jun 2015
#142
Bernie was going to make a major speech on anti-oppression issues last Sunday.
Ken Burch
Jun 2015
#146
No, it's not. This entire form is called General Discussion - Primaries. Obama is not running
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#162
Just like your candidate Bernie. You should call him up and criticize him right away. nt
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#230
That means nothing. He goes to argue Democratic points. Same as me. Go criticize him. nt
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#232
Nope, if its evil to go on that network, its evil. Go criticize Sanders. nt
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#234
I suggest you don't vote for Obama since he didn't fix the AA social problems thing.
Sheepshank
Jun 2015
#200
So Bernie is deaf (although he's turned up his hearing aid) and he can't fix things either?
Sheepshank
Jun 2015
#205
Bernie posted this on Twitter on June 11, days before Charleston and the many posts here...
madfloridian
Jun 2015
#32
many have said the same about politicians' efforts in addressing the LGBT community
bigtree
Jun 2015
#41
To direct it at a candidate who has stood for the needs of people his whole career..
madfloridian
Jun 2015
#45
I'd like to quote your words toward those of us who complained about Rick Warren at the Inaugural
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#38
you contradict the very point about my defense of these complaints against Sanders
bigtree
Jun 2015
#43
ridiculous to hope that this effort comprises more than lip service from a politician?
bigtree
Jun 2015
#64
This idea that Bernie isn't good enough on minority concerns is a manufactured issue.
Ed Suspicious
Jun 2015
#124
his own words.. “We’re going to significantly increase that,” the Democratic presidential hopeful to
Cha
Jun 2015
#127
What? He's going to increase his mentions of success? He's going to tell people what he's done on
Ed Suspicious
Jun 2015
#130
His "pet issue" of economics? Whether people can afford food, health care, and education....
Cheese Sandwich
Jun 2015
#66
I didn't discount it. I made the observation that 2 minutes in a campaign isn't enough
bigtree
Jun 2015
#81
Another great post. Your sentence in the 1st paragraph, beginning w/ "HRC has spent decades"
kath
Jun 2015
#178
" economic success for many black Americans" < Has there been a black-owned gold strike?
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#82
"despicable"< Is a word I also use when people pretend that others conditions are better than they
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#91
Nobody implied Bernie is a racist.. that's pure hogwash from his so called advocates on DU who
Cha
Jun 2015
#112
Meta. There was a political point there, but it got drowned out by the OP's posturing.
Comrade Grumpy
Jun 2015
#106
There's no valid discussion that needs to happen here. There was never a real issue.
Ken Burch
Jun 2015
#135
No, I'm pretty sure the people accused of implying Sanders was a racist were
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Jun 2015
#159
nonexistent. Just add that word to your subject and that is all that is needed.
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#165
Economics isn't his "pet issue". It's his lens through which he sees the world.
KittyWampus
Jun 2015
#160