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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
24. And I'll tell you what.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 10:30 PM
Jul 2015

I'm not going to pretend that the influence of big banking isn't corrosive. And yet, as I've pointed out before, the amount that Hillary has raised from bankers totals 3.4% of her total campaign fundraising. Basically, a tiny fraction. The "Hillary is owned by bankers" meme is almost wholly false.

Here's my challenge for you. I first "met" you on DU from your posts in I/P, which I found excellent and agreed with close to 100%. You must understand that when it comes to I/P Bernie is at most marginally better than Hillary. He's not going to call it apartheid. He's not going to call the war crimes war crimes. He's not going to call for ending the billions in military aid, or even making the military aid contingent on any kind of change in policy.

Given that, and given that you obviously take the I/P situation very seriously, how can you treat Bernie as anything but another flawed politician? And if you do, why do you seem to reject Hillary, who is also a flawed politician, with such vigor? At some level, you are a political realist, otherwise you would be decrying Bernie for his stance on I/P (and guns, and the F-35). But political realism also implies understanding that Hillary is not only the most likely candidate to beat the GOP, but also that given GOP obstruction in congress, the difference between a Hillary and a Bernie presidency would be minimal.

Do you really think that single payer is going to get through congress? Or a 0.5% financial transaction tax? Or breaking up the big banks or even re-instating Dodd Frank? No, it's not. What this election is about is whether we continue the Obama path of doing the best we can in the face of GOP opposition, or handing over the presidency to a Republican who will roll back all the progress we've made, go back to Reaganomics and appoint right-wing SC justices that will haunt us for a generation.

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I just can't see her camping. artislife Jul 2015 #1
With her economic plan, we'll all end up living in tents. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #2
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Scuba Jul 2015 #3
LOL azmom Jul 2015 #43
her speaking fees are not an issue for me ibegurpard Jul 2015 #4
She's not blaring it from rooftops. Right-wingers trying to bash her are. DanTex Jul 2015 #7
you're doing it right here ibegurpard Jul 2015 #13
This is a response to the Hillary-bashers who are acting as though she only speaks in front of banks DanTex Jul 2015 #14
Aww does that make you has a sad? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #17
No, but it sets of my BS-meter. Obviously you prefer if the right-wing lies go unchallenged. DanTex Jul 2015 #19
why do Hillary supporters think Bernie won't be a challenge as well? retrowire Jul 2015 #25
Right wingers and YOU. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #16
I'm sure you would prefer if I didn't respond to the right-wing anti-HRC memes that show up on DU. DanTex Jul 2015 #18
Doesn't matter if you do or don't. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #20
True, the Hillary bashers are mostly immune to facts. But I'm still going to post them. DanTex Jul 2015 #21
Did Bill pitch a tent? awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #5
Bought and paid for by the campsters! Adrahil Jul 2015 #6
Okay. I gigglesnorted Scootaloo Jul 2015 #8
I was gonna go with "big women" but thought the better of it... DanTex Jul 2015 #12
I'll tell you what though... Scootaloo Jul 2015 #22
And I'll tell you what. DanTex Jul 2015 #24
These ones bother me more: marble falls Jul 2015 #9
Bzzzt. Already been debunked! You're late to the party. DanTex Jul 2015 #11
it really wasn't debunked. retrowire Jul 2015 #28
The number is 3.4%. I noticed you avoided that one. 3.4%. Memorize that, it's important. DanTex Jul 2015 #31
keep your eyes closed all you want retrowire Jul 2015 #33
"Percentages not provided by that one list?" What are you talking about? DanTex Jul 2015 #34
i didnt say 3.4% was most of her money retrowire Jul 2015 #35
Well than what other money are you talking about other than the 3.4%? DanTex Jul 2015 #36
cite your source for the remaining sum of money. retrowire Jul 2015 #37
Right here: DanTex Jul 2015 #39
I have it on good authority... brooklynite Jul 2015 #10
ROFLMAO. Well played! stevenleser Jul 2015 #15
She took $275K out of cardiovascular research? Motown_Johnny Jul 2015 #23
Good to keep this in mind if they ask for money. djean111 Jul 2015 #26
Yeah, boycott heart research to spite Clinton! DanTex Jul 2015 #27
I don't see why any research facility needs to spend that much money on a speaker. djean111 Jul 2015 #30
If we're going that way, how about some concern about Bernie taking money from working class people DanTex Jul 2015 #32
Good for her. Another non-issue. Lil Missy Jul 2015 #29
After Bernie's latest speech about his plans to fix this outrage, I may have to support him!! Sancho Jul 2015 #38
Does the American Camp Association have an interest in any legislation that might come up PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #40
I assume they support environmental protection. But you'll have to ask them for details. DanTex Jul 2015 #41
she could always go the republican way to get massive donations. write a crap online book. Sunlei Jul 2015 #42
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