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gollygee

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102. If he would have talked about racism and protests and police killings
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 08:22 PM
Jul 2015

or at least touched on them during his speech, it would have helped. People were watching that speech trying to decide whether they would vote for him and listening for some kind of acknowledgment of these issues and he didn't say anything about them. The announcement speech is where you talk about why you're running and what your priorities are, and some mention of racism, with all that's been going on in this country, should have been a part of it.

It started when he announced in Vermont that is Exilednight Jul 2015 #1
Maybe so but one cannot help about the demographcs of Vermont. mmonk Jul 2015 #5
It was a Clinton surrogate. Exilednight Jul 2015 #9
Who and where? mmonk Jul 2015 #11
You won't get an answer, that poster likes making unsubstantiated claims. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #19
You know if he had a lot of black people come in from outside the area... cascadiance Jul 2015 #87
If more than a handful of not white folks showed up at any meeting in Vermont, you are not in Vermont. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #94
If he would have talked about racism and protests and police killings gollygee Jul 2015 #102
seems from what I've read, that Sanders actually was talking about all of this however.. 2banon Jul 2015 #133
I'm talking about the Vermont announcement speech gollygee Jul 2015 #136
I see. My apologies for not following the thread correctly. 2banon Jul 2015 #137
That's OK gollygee Jul 2015 #138
Reminds me of 'swiftboating' RobertEarl Jul 2015 #2
+1 CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #80
You're close. See 105 below. leveymg Jul 2015 #112
I believe it's the start of the swift boating of Bernie. Cleita Jul 2015 #3
Not really. moobu2 Jul 2015 #91
Yes. mmonk Jul 2015 #122
Where do you think it originated? whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #4
Do you mean the HRC campaign? mmonk Jul 2015 #7
Speculation of course n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #10
From people who want to shut down the topic of economic equality Scootaloo Jul 2015 #6
But it's beyond DU. mmonk Jul 2015 #8
The answer is still the same Scootaloo Jul 2015 #12
Byron York, a RW columnist, see 105 below leveymg Jul 2015 #111
Or maybe it's from people who recognize Bernie's speech from 50 years ago is out of date- KittyWampus Jul 2015 #17
Pretty weak. mmonk Jul 2015 #27
How about his speeech the day before NN? frylock Jul 2015 #28
He gave one speech 50 years ago and done nothing since? arcane1 Jul 2015 #29
Perpetuating lies is how they roll. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #54
Don't hold back. Tell us how we really feel. n/t Scootaloo Jul 2015 #31
So now O'Malley supporters are pushing the same meme? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #68
........ daleanime Jul 2015 #93
Racial inequality is more than just economic inequality and they can be discussed together. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #79
Of course they can be discussed together Scootaloo Jul 2015 #90
I think I can agree with you that BLM may not be the best messengers. We are on the same page, Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #92
Bullshit! This is about white people not wanting to discuss racism; instead using class/economic Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #126
Classic Strawman. CLASSIC. No one on DU or elsewhere have said or implied KittyWampus Jul 2015 #13
Might be believable except for us that know it is false. mmonk Jul 2015 #15
Well said. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #16
I know the reasoning from that perspective mmonk Jul 2015 #25
Wtf? So these threads didn't happen?: beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #22
Two threads by ONE DU'er. That is ONE DU'er. ONE. KittyWampus Jul 2015 #30
No, two EXAMPLES. There have been many others. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #37
She knows PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #75
Selective recollection is the only way she can defend her claim. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #78
It is deliberate PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #85
You had said "NO ONE" - Now you're discounting examples. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #77
The first one was bad, but that second OP is absolutely vile, I'm glad it was hidden. MerryBlooms Jul 2015 #48
There were others too. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #56
Again, I am just so disappointed... lesson learned. MerryBlooms Jul 2015 #64
That second post proved to me that Sanders is doing better than we think. arcane1 Jul 2015 #58
I think there's more to it-- maybe grievances with some Bernie supporters underneath. MerryBlooms Jul 2015 #69
That is most likely true as well :( n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #70
Yes, some are using the primaries to continue personal feuds. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #71
I was traveling yesterday so I missed that second thread. neverforget Jul 2015 #83
I didn't know they were banned until someone pointed that out. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #86
This is on point nt artislife Jul 2015 #50
Changes his tactics to empty pander? whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #65
So you think Bernie would be Bsing POC of he reached out? Or he is somehow above it all? bettyellen Jul 2015 #82
If BLM are down with Hillary whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #95
I think they said they we're going after all the candidates? bettyellen Jul 2015 #119
Good whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #121
But they won't. Clinton events (like Republican events) are far too tightly controlled n/t eridani Jul 2015 #123
Exactly Andy823 Jul 2015 #96
Yeah, their big mistake was dismissing valid questions from our Black Community on DU.. Cha Jul 2015 #108
That's it, right there. Easier to ascribe rightwing "blame" rather than sit down, be silent, and MADem Jul 2015 #127
Actually, I think the view is different for Bernie, versus his DU supporters. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #14
Doesn't explain the same theme that preceded the protestors. mmonk Jul 2015 #18
The "Theme" as it was presented is that redistributing the wealth won't save black lives. KittyWampus Jul 2015 #20
It will save lives, but not stop racism or police brutality or institutional racism. mmonk Jul 2015 #21
You mean African Americans needed BLM protests to become aware of the ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #23
Your take. I'm just asking questions. mmonk Jul 2015 #33
isn't that what ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #41
Personal attacks get us no closer to what I'm asking. mmonk Jul 2015 #46
I did not make a personal attack. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #63
I understand. mmonk Jul 2015 #67
Also, my apologies and I appreciate your answers. mmonk Jul 2015 #104
It's so odd that people want to believe BLM is somehow manufactured or controlled bettyellen Jul 2015 #35
Especially since its existed for a while now. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #44
I'm starting to think some prefer conspiracy theories more than they do actually listening to people bettyellen Jul 2015 #81
Ain't that the truth! zappaman Jul 2015 #134
I did not say that. mmonk Jul 2015 #55
I think initially it was a combo of his website and his stump speech both being laser focused on the bettyellen Jul 2015 #74
It's easier than having to face the alternative, which is the reality that they can't MADem Jul 2015 #128
The 1% controlled Third Way think tank would be the most logical source. Zorra Jul 2015 #24
The most logical answer I have received in my judgment. mmonk Jul 2015 #26
So it's back to conspiracy theory now and using Malcolm X to cover KittyWampus Jul 2015 #34
It's a Rovian talking point and they generally come from expensive Think Tanks sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #45
We've seen Third Way posters here lie shamelessly and repeatedly on DU, so Zorra Jul 2015 #61
Bingo! nt haikugal Jul 2015 #72
One of the first places I saw it here was back in May arcane1 Jul 2015 #32
Keep clutching at that thread. It's all there is to brush away the mountain of valid criticism. KittyWampus Jul 2015 #38
How am I "clutching" it? I answered the OP's question. arcane1 Jul 2015 #40
Interesting. mmonk Jul 2015 #39
In a very expensive Think Tank paid to come up with TALKING POINTS sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #36
It may work with some though. mmonk Jul 2015 #42
Whoever it might work with wasn't going to be supporting the candidate anyhow. It probably is sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #51
problem for them it's not convincing but they don't have any other option MisterP Jul 2015 #120
You ask two things dsc Jul 2015 #43
That explains here. I think it goes beyond here and a few supporters. mmonk Jul 2015 #49
None of those posts should have been allowed to stand. Shameful! MerryBlooms Jul 2015 #53
Follow the money is always a safe bet. demmiblue Jul 2015 #47
True that. mmonk Jul 2015 #52
I'm a white guy that does not lay awake at night worrying about minority, LGBT or brewens Jul 2015 #57
You've embodied my opinion on this subject. billymayshere Jul 2015 #88
Black parents do lie awake at night more than some more privileged folks when their minority teenagers are late coming home. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #89
+1 nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #124
Liberal white women. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #59
Hhhhmm. That's an interesting answer but would have to know more. mmonk Jul 2015 #60
There are some on DU Kalidurga Jul 2015 #66
LOL bettyellen Jul 2015 #76
No one has voted yet. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #97
I think mostly out of frustration. MerryBlooms Jul 2015 #62
Thanks everyone for your input. mmonk Jul 2015 #73
it's an assumption HassleCat Jul 2015 #84
Bernie's civil rights activities in his life are astounding 90-percent Jul 2015 #98
That was 53 years ago. kwassa Jul 2015 #100
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251465846 90-percent Jul 2015 #132
Bernie doesn't care about BLM kwassa Jul 2015 #99
Actually I have heard him talk about it. mmonk Jul 2015 #103
News to me. What did he say? kwassa Jul 2015 #114
The dismissive attitude of his supporters Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #101
Byron York, a RW columnist just after Bernie announced leveymg Jul 2015 #105
Thanks. You are always on the ball. mmonk Jul 2015 #106
Confirm and go ahead and tell the others. Good post. leveymg Jul 2015 #107
Wow. Eye opening. mmonk Jul 2015 #115
Isn't it amazing how we're being played? leveymg Jul 2015 #116
Done. mmonk Jul 2015 #118
Except it doesn't preclude anyone noticing both his website and his stump apwwches were lacking.... bettyellen Jul 2015 #135
Chris Hayes mentioned the cursory mention of blacks, Latinos, LGBT and others on his show bigtree Jul 2015 #109
I've run into a few but it doesn't matter. Thanks bigtree for your input. mmonk Jul 2015 #110
Very good question. The answer is in the Human Equation seveneyes Jul 2015 #113
By listening and common sense? I noticed his one track ecstatic Jul 2015 #117
Knee jerk reaction to very few internet postings has blown this up. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #125
I was just searching for the origins. It all stems from having his announcement mmonk Jul 2015 #129
I truly like every word of your reply and thank you for it. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #130
I think O'Malley will gain some momentum once he gets a little more press. mmonk Jul 2015 #131
^ Zorra Jul 2015 #139
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