2016 Postmortem

Deny and Shred

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36. You're welcome.

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:01 PM

Jul 2015

A modern politician having taken a 50-year unpopular-yet-principled stand is probably unique. Ignore that. Focus on that 20+ year gap though - there couldn't possibly be gaps in the records of other candidates.

If only he'd been a Goldwater girl, or not known which way to go on LGBT rights a mere few years ago. If only the same focus-grouped precision of today could have been applied when establishing principles held (or changed) for the previously-mentioned 50 years ...

Taking the opponent's strength (50 yr track record) and portraying it as a weakness - where have I heard that strategy before?

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Poll: Bernie vs. Hillary on Social Justice [View all] MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 OP

Not even close. 99Forever Jul 2015 #1

Dedicating her life to fighting AIDS in Africa. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #5

DOMA beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #6

What year was that? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #7

Oh, my bad. I thought you were talking about her entire life. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #8

You're the one who brought it up. I was just.... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #10

You brought up her life's accomplishments, I was just helping you out. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #11

I wouldn't consider that an "accomplishment"... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #13

Bingo. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #14

Weird that you thought it was though. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #16

It was quite an accomplishment for someone opposed to same sex marriage. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #18

It was in the etc's. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #21

But you just said it wasn't listed. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #22

Yeah because something she never even cast a vote for... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #27

She ran for president while opposing equal rights for lgbt people. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #30

Just make sure you vote for the 2016 Dem nominee. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #32

She said as she took her ball and went home... beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #37

Here the thing: JaneyVee Jul 2015 #42

Damn good thing too, because you're failing miserably. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #45

Stay positive. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #48

If you're not pissed off you're not paying attention. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #50

Leave Hillary alone! Fuddnik Jul 2015 #54

LOL! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #56

^^Thread winner!^^ mr blur Jul 2015 #68

Yes, you make sure to vote for the 2016 Dem nominee too. Curmudgeoness Jul 2015 #72

2008, perhaps later MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #9

White strategy in 2008, Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #60

And then there's that. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #62

But they are hard working white people......nt artislife Jul 2015 #84

Was Hillary Clinton President when DOMA was passed? brooklynite Jul 2015 #77

She opposed same sex marriage throughout her career including when she ran beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #78

I don't think you're using the phrase "dedicating her life to..." properly there Scootaloo Jul 2015 #12

Don't her speeches benefit Clinton Global Initiative? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #15

Usually when someone says a person has dedicated their life" to something... Scootaloo Jul 2015 #23

OT bvf Jul 2015 #29

OMG. Really? Phlem Jul 2015 #58

This isn't a cafeteria. 99Forever Jul 2015 #17

If its on the internet it must be true. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #19

What "actual poll results" are you referring to? bvf Jul 2015 #51

It's on the internet. It must not be true. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #57

On a bernie board, sure. George II Jul 2015 #25

"On a bernie board" ...? I think you missed the forum tag Bubzer Jul 2015 #52

Done in one: Welfare reform. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #20

She did not cast any vote for it. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #35

She heartily endorsed it MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #41

And the NRA heartily endorsed Bernie. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #43

By giving him an F rating. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #46

Oh goodness LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #74

She's dedicated her life to fighting AIDS? DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #59

I'm sure the women of Iraq and Libya appreciate that work n/t eridani Jul 2015 #67

Disclaimer: This is an internet poll. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #2

Yes, everybody knows that. bvf Jul 2015 #3

Are you certain? Where am I? Who took my scotch? AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #34

All polls have disclaimers. Bubzer Jul 2015 #53

translation: your horse is running last. By 140 lengths. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #65

If I may paraphrase Jester Messiah : Deny and Shred Jul 2015 #4

50 years, with a huge 20+ year gap in the middle, thank you. George II Jul 2015 #26

You're welcome. Deny and Shred Jul 2015 #36

Another Black Blogger's perspective... kenn3d Jul 2015 #73

Thank you for the link Deny and Shred Jul 2015 #81

What twenty plus years? Specifically? n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #63

This is HUGH! There is a 20 year gap! Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #69

I'd say they're about the same ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #24

Perhaps you can help to enlighten the 100 or so voters MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #31

+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #61

Well, I don't see the world through the lense of Bernie ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #66

Did you notice that the Supreme Court Marriage Equality Decision delrem Jul 2015 #82

yup JI7 Jul 2015 #39

Nice Poll Manny Hydra Jul 2015 #28

Odd, it's almost as if most of one side is boycotting the poll. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #33

Ya, missing some names here Hydra Jul 2015 #38

Well that settles it. Bernie is the new president of DU. DanTex Jul 2015 #40

Finally. TM99 Jul 2015 #44

as kucinich sets to end his JI7 Jul 2015 #47

You do know that internet polls are useless don't you? Buzz cook Jul 2015 #49

While I believe it IS true Bernie has the best record hands down, we must remember PatrickforO Jul 2015 #55

While it is true that Bernie has a much longer BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #64

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author Curmudgeoness Jul 2015 #71

Hillary has certainly accomplished more Onlooker Jul 2015 #75

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #76

Is that even a question once you check out their records, and after seeing how sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #79

^ Zorra Jul 2015 #80

I voted for Bernie because track record Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #83