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BlueMTexpat

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64. While it is true that Bernie has a much longer
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 02:44 AM
Jul 2015

record in the US Congress if one combines both his House and Senate years, his votes and Hillary's votes on social justice issues are generally closer than not.

If individuals are truly interested in exploring those issues and getting information instead of piling on Clinton supporters as I noticed has happened here, please see the post upthread that lists their actual voting records. Please also check out this site: http://www.ontheissues.org/Issues.htm

Hillary actually showed great consciousness of social justice issues dating from her commencement speech at Wellesley College in 1969. Yes, 1969! http://www.sojust.net/speeches/hillaryclinton_commencement.html

Some excerpts:

...
We are, all of us, exploring a world that none of us even understands and attempting to create within that uncertainty. But there are some things we feel, feelings that our prevailing, acquisitive, and competitive corporate life, including tragically the universities, is not the way of life for us. We're searching for more immediate, ecstatic and penetrating mode of living. And so our questions, our questions about our institutions, about our colleges, about our churches, about our government continue.
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Every protest, every dissent, whether it's an individual academic paper, Founder's parking lot demonstration, is unabashedly an attempt to forge an identity in this particular age. That attempt at forging for many of us over the past four years has meant coming to terms with our humanness. Within the context of a society that we perceive -- now we can talk about reality, and I would like to talk about reality sometime, authentic reality, inauthentic reality, and what we have to accept of what we see -- but our perception of it is that it hovers often between the possibility of disaster and the potentiality for imaginatively responding to men's needs. There's a very strange conservative strain that goes through a lot of New Left, collegiate protests that I find very intriguing because it harkens back to a lot of the old virtues, to the fulfillment of original ideas. And it's also a very unique American experience. It's such a great adventure. If the experiment in human living doesn't work in this country, in this age, it's not going to work anywhere.

But we also know that to be educated, the goal of it must be human liberation. A liberation enabling each of us to fulfill our capacity so as to be free to create within and around ourselves. To be educated to freedom must be evidenced in action, and here again is where we ask ourselves, as we have asked our parents and our teachers, questions about integrity, trust, and respect. Those three words mean different things to all of us.
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There's that mutuality of respect between people where you don't see people as percentage points. Where you don't manipulate people. Where you're not interested in social engineering for people. The struggle for an integrated life existing in an atmosphere of communal trust and respect is one with desperately important political and social consequences. And the word "consequences" of course catapults us into the future. One of the most tragic things that happened yesterday, a beautiful day, was that I was talking to woman who said that she wouldn't want to be me for anything in the world. She wouldn't want to live today and look ahead to what it is she sees because she's afraid. Fear is always with us but we just don't have time for it. Not now.
...


She concludes with a wonderful poem by Nancy Schneibner:

My entrance into the world of so-called "social problems"
Must be with quiet laughter, or not at all.
The hollow men of anger and bitterness
The bountiful ladies of righteous degradation
All must be left to a bygone age.
And the purpose of history is to provide a receptacle
For all those myths and oddments
Which oddly we have acquired
And from which we would become unburdened
To create a newer world
To transform the future into the present.
We have no need of false revolutions
In a world where categories tend to tyrannize our minds
And hang our wills up on narrow pegs.
It is well at every given moment to seek the limits in our lives.
And once those limits are understood
To understand that limitations no longer exist.
Earth could be fair. And you and I must be free
Not to save the world in a glorious crusade
Not to kill ourselves with a nameless gnawing pain
But to practice with all the skill of our being
The art of making possible.


Whatever she has been and done since - even with occasional wobbles - have brought her back full circle to this. I firmly believe this and am proud to support her candidacy.

May the best man (or woman) win the nomination!

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Not even close. 99Forever Jul 2015 #1
Dedicating her life to fighting AIDS in Africa. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #5
DOMA beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #6
What year was that? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #7
Oh, my bad. I thought you were talking about her entire life. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #8
You're the one who brought it up. I was just.... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #10
You brought up her life's accomplishments, I was just helping you out. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #11
I wouldn't consider that an "accomplishment"... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #13
Bingo. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #14
Weird that you thought it was though. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #16
It was quite an accomplishment for someone opposed to same sex marriage. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #18
It was in the etc's. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #21
But you just said it wasn't listed. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #22
Yeah because something she never even cast a vote for... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #27
She ran for president while opposing equal rights for lgbt people. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #30
Just make sure you vote for the 2016 Dem nominee. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #32
She said as she took her ball and went home... beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #37
Here the thing: JaneyVee Jul 2015 #42
Damn good thing too, because you're failing miserably. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #45
Stay positive. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #48
If you're not pissed off you're not paying attention. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #50
Leave Hillary alone! Fuddnik Jul 2015 #54
LOL! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #56
^^Thread winner!^^ mr blur Jul 2015 #68
Yes, you make sure to vote for the 2016 Dem nominee too. Curmudgeoness Jul 2015 #72
2008, perhaps later MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #9
White strategy in 2008, Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #60
And then there's that. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #62
But they are hard working white people......nt artislife Jul 2015 #84
Was Hillary Clinton President when DOMA was passed? brooklynite Jul 2015 #77
She opposed same sex marriage throughout her career including when she ran beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #78
I don't think you're using the phrase "dedicating her life to..." properly there Scootaloo Jul 2015 #12
Don't her speeches benefit Clinton Global Initiative? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #15
Usually when someone says a person has dedicated their life" to something... Scootaloo Jul 2015 #23
OT bvf Jul 2015 #29
OMG. Really? Phlem Jul 2015 #58
This isn't a cafeteria. 99Forever Jul 2015 #17
If its on the internet it must be true. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #19
What "actual poll results" are you referring to? bvf Jul 2015 #51
It's on the internet. It must not be true. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #57
On a bernie board, sure. George II Jul 2015 #25
"On a bernie board" ...? I think you missed the forum tag Bubzer Jul 2015 #52
Done in one: Welfare reform. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #20
She did not cast any vote for it. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #35
She heartily endorsed it MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #41
And the NRA heartily endorsed Bernie. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #43
By giving him an F rating. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #46
Oh goodness LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #74
She's dedicated her life to fighting AIDS? DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #59
I'm sure the women of Iraq and Libya appreciate that work n/t eridani Jul 2015 #67
Disclaimer: This is an internet poll. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #2
Yes, everybody knows that. bvf Jul 2015 #3
Are you certain? Where am I? Who took my scotch? AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #34
All polls have disclaimers. Bubzer Jul 2015 #53
translation: your horse is running last. By 140 lengths. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #65
If I may paraphrase Jester Messiah : Deny and Shred Jul 2015 #4
50 years, with a huge 20+ year gap in the middle, thank you. George II Jul 2015 #26
You're welcome. Deny and Shred Jul 2015 #36
Another Black Blogger's perspective... kenn3d Jul 2015 #73
Thank you for the link Deny and Shred Jul 2015 #81
What twenty plus years? Specifically? n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #63
This is HUGH! There is a 20 year gap! Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #69
I'd say they're about the same ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #24
Perhaps you can help to enlighten the 100 or so voters MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #31
+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #61
Well, I don't see the world through the lense of Bernie ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #66
Did you notice that the Supreme Court Marriage Equality Decision delrem Jul 2015 #82
yup JI7 Jul 2015 #39
Nice Poll Manny Hydra Jul 2015 #28
Odd, it's almost as if most of one side is boycotting the poll. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #33
Ya, missing some names here Hydra Jul 2015 #38
Well that settles it. Bernie is the new president of DU. DanTex Jul 2015 #40
Finally. TM99 Jul 2015 #44
as kucinich sets to end his JI7 Jul 2015 #47
You do know that internet polls are useless don't you? Buzz cook Jul 2015 #49
While I believe it IS true Bernie has the best record hands down, we must remember PatrickforO Jul 2015 #55
While it is true that Bernie has a much longer BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #64
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author Curmudgeoness Jul 2015 #71
Hillary has certainly accomplished more Onlooker Jul 2015 #75
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #76
Is that even a question once you check out their records, and after seeing how sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #79
^ Zorra Jul 2015 #80
I voted for Bernie because track record Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #83
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