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105. She has hubris to spare.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:34 AM
Jul 2015
In its modern usage, hubris denotes overconfident pride and arrogance. Hubris is often associated with a lack of humility, though not always with the lack of knowledge. Those accused of hubris often come from higher social backgrounds, such as politicians or wealthy celebrities, than the accuser, who accuses them of having marginal experience with the realities of the topics they are addressing. An accusation of hubris often implies that suffering or punishment will follow, similar to the occasional pairing of hubris and nemesis in Greek mythology.

The proverb "pride goeth (goes) before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall" (from the biblical Book of Proverbs, 16:18) is thought to sum up the modern use of hubris. It is also referred to as "pride that blinds", as it often causes one accused of hubris to act in foolish ways that belie common sense.[5]
If the Repubs would just quit blibbering on about Benghazi-- eridani Jul 2015 #1
You cant prove a negative padfun Jul 2015 #2
After dealing with the right wing for more than 20 years, LakeVermilion Jul 2015 #3
She should have known better, and probably did. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #6
This issue is about being tech savy;right wing concerns are policy/personality centered Divernan Jul 2015 #8
Excellent points, Divernan. k&r, nt. appal_jack Jul 2015 #19
You make so many excellent points and thanks for your discussion of your own experience karynnj Jul 2015 #88
The Clintons' voluminous baggage goes back decades & it's documented. Divernan Jul 2015 #96
The arrogance is strong in that one tularetom Jul 2015 #101
She has hubris to spare. Divernan Jul 2015 #105
Clinton's server was less of a security risk than the State Department's. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #4
and destroying it was less of a risk than alc Jul 2015 #22
Well, you go on and assume the worst, ain't nobody stopping you. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #24
What do you think was in the Benghazi emails you refer to? JoePhilly Jul 2015 #30
I'm trying to wrap my mind around your use of Benghazi, Ambassador Stevens, and Vince Foster. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #49
Do you read the things you post? JoePhilly Jul 2015 #71
It's about not reading urgent messages from an Ambassador, no matter where he's stationed. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #86
So it is about Benghazi. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #90
Your interlocutor did indeed play the Ben Gazi card... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #91
I found it rather amusing ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #92
It is sad how invested they are in this story in the service of a candidate who will never DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #93
Well ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #94
I was taught in Civics one of the roles of president is head of his or her party... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #95
BENGHAZI!!!#!1!1 SunSeeker Jul 2015 #46
Don't you think that if it were hacked someone would be bragging about it? OKNancy Jul 2015 #5
Yeah, those Chinese and Russians. Always gloating Fuddnik Jul 2015 #7
Nope. They'd save it for the general election campaign. Divernan Jul 2015 #10
Bernie will not be the nominee, so you better hope OKNancy Jul 2015 #13
if i were you i would hope hillary is not the nominee restorefreedom Jul 2015 #42
If you were in possession of all the information on her server, would you brag about it now... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #20
Prove it was. BooScout Jul 2015 #9
Stop running down Democratic candidates with bogus claims of 'Prove it!' randome Jul 2015 #11
Hi DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #15
I guess everyone forgot that my father is gay. randome Jul 2015 #16
The challenge is when you call a man , heterosexual or homosexual DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #17
Please don't delete the references. Sometimes people need to be reminded. Thank You. Laser102 Jul 2015 #25
I disagree with that interpretation but I won't make the same mistake again. randome Jul 2015 #28
It is kind of funny, Ed Snowden fans suddenly so worried about data leaks.... DanTex Jul 2015 #12
No, in fact the IG's have found classified info in her emails--they were stored in her TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #35
Some may have been "classified" years after it was sent... Sancho Jul 2015 #47
The IG said specifically that the info contained within four of forty emails TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #48
You are simply wrong on the law....and the WSJ has already backed off their article. Sancho Jul 2015 #50
The issue I'm discussing is specifically the handling of classified information. TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #53
But email wasn't used to for classified information, so there's no problem.... Sancho Jul 2015 #56
We're just talking past each other. Yes, it matters that classified information TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #58
Then we'll just have to disagree.... Sancho Jul 2015 #69
There are penalties for mishandling classified material, even if it's by TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #70
watch the video...then post your apology... Sancho Jul 2015 #72
?? Not watching the video, what is it about? TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #73
It's the complete explanation of the NYT story with the original documents in hand. Sancho Jul 2015 #74
Does it deal with the Wall Street Journal's reporting that an Inspector TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #75
Yes...but it doesn't matter to Hillary.... Sancho Jul 2015 #77
I think we're talking about different news stories: TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #80
Different version of the same story... Sancho Jul 2015 #81
Classified info was on her server. TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #82
The IG said none of those 40 emails were MARKED classified at the time. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #54
Doesn't matter if they were marked. jeff47 Jul 2015 #55
Bad analogy. Everything at the Manhattan project was classified or secret. Not so with State. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #60
And there are plenty of things at state that are classified. jeff47 Jul 2015 #64
They determined that she should not have had that info on her server--marked or not. TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #57
They did not "determine" that Hillary did any wrong. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #63
I read it as, "This shit was improperly handled and TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #68
The inquiry is not sought into Hillary Clinton's use of email. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #98
I'm sure it has nothing to do with Hillary LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #85
I'll leave the spreading of right wing fake scandals where they sufrommich Jul 2015 #14
10 DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #18
Benghazi!...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #21
Wrong topic. Maybe you're thinking of a different thread. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #23
We really need to do something about the <---!!!squirrel!!!---> infestation of DU. Zorra Jul 2015 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #44
This thread is about gyrocopters, not Benghazi. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #83
Not interested...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #84
It isn't up to us to show evidence it wasn't hacked. It's up to YOU to show evidence it was. wyldwolf Jul 2015 #26
She needed her own server to hide the emails which prove she ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #27
it is only an issue to republicans and apparently Bernie supporters. Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #31
Are you suggesting supporters of a certain candidate... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #32
I think Ben Gazzara died a few years ago. What does he have to do with servers and emails? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #34
Nothing, just like servers and e-mails will ultimately have to do ... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #36
Death from a thousand cuts... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #37
A thousand wishes have no more chance of becoming true than one. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #38
Confucius? Or just confused? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #39
Clarity is my raison d'etre. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #41
We ARE laughing, cherokeeprogressive. We are. randome Jul 2015 #33
. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #43
The proof you seek is illogical.... Sancho Jul 2015 #45
Hillary Clinton's Private Server... Laugh it off. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #51
A person charged with a crime has to be proven guilty, the person doesn't have to prove their Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #52
And if this was a trial, that would be relevant. But this is a political campaign. jeff47 Jul 2015 #59
The op contained "Prove it wasn't hacked. SHOW me evidence it wasn't hacked. Prove to me and the Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #61
And my different point is that there is a massive minefield here beyond hacking. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #66
CT Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #67
Yes, much easier than addressing the point I made. jeff47 Jul 2015 #99
Evidence? Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #100
Your interest in this begins and ends with Hillary LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #62
Prove it was. Arkana Jul 2015 #65
It's not even about security, it's about judgement and common sense. HappyPlace Jul 2015 #76
The real issue is that everything can be hacked... Agschmid Jul 2015 #78
Sure, you care so much about security risks BainsBane Jul 2015 #79
Who is "you all"? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #87
Are you claiming you didn't support the Wikileaks release BainsBane Jul 2015 #89
Are you claiming I did? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #97
Hacked/not-hacked is not the issue in my mind. delrem Jul 2015 #102
I agree this is troublesome. BKH70041 Jul 2015 #103
On what issues is Bernie to the left of most Americans? MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #104
Yawn philosslayer Jul 2015 #106
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