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Wed Jul 29, 2015, 08:51 AM

10. Ok...just because some keep repeating this meme that is another Hillary bash with no substance...

here's a repeat of another thread. Hillary has a long environmental and international history on working to reign in carbon as an energy source. Bernie has virtually no real experience, so he tosses out "stop the Keystone", but has no plan to deal with the majority of world use of energy. It's complex, and Hillary has already been on the front lines.

"It's NOT good enough to tell voters
that we need to elect her to find out
who and what she represents."

Anyone can easily look up what she has worked on for years. Keystone is a drop in the bucket, and Obama has the choice right now, and Obama has said he would veto the pipeline.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=480175

It's pretty common for members of an existing cabinet to avoid criticizing a sitting President... and I'm sure anyone with a bit of political sense knows that...it was reported on NPR months ago that Obama, Hillary, and even Warren agreed to avoid open attacks on some on-going issues that they had worked on together in the past.

Meanwhile, Keystone is not a done deal, and it has plenty of Democratic supporters. If it can't get past an Obama veto, then being for or against it doesn't matter. Even though it's an obvious target for Bernie (he's not from an energy state, and he's not dealing with a big Vermont chapter of union members whose jobs are energy related). Bernie is typically simplistic. Of course, Hillary also understands that the environmental problems really require an international solution. Links below:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/afl-cio-urges-approval-of-keystone-xl-pipeline/article/2555805
AFL-CIO urges approval of Keystone XL pipeline

AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka urged the new Republican-controlled Congress and the White House to get together and approve the controversial, long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline project, saying it would boost the economy.

"There are a number of economic issues and job issues that we want them to get done. That happens to be one of them. So the answer is 'yes.' We want to get every jobs issue that we can out and as many jobs created as we can to get the economy going," Trumka said in response to a question about the pipeline during a post-election press conference Wednesday.

It was the firmest statement on the subject that Trumka has made. The AFL-CIO has voiced qualified support for the project in the past but stopped short a full endorsement. Last year, for example, the labor coalition issued a statement supporting pipeline projects in general but did not specifically mention Keystone.

AFL-CIO spokesman Josh Goldstein explained that Trumka's statement "was a 'yes' to Keystone, but there are still a lot conditions we have" relating to project's environmental impact, worker safety and other issues.

Many here on DU remembers that "Ed Shultz was For the Keystone before he was against it!!" Ed's being a bit of a hypocrite on this issue to criticize Hillary, but he's trying to get in his "pro Bernie" shots on the way out the door.

Liberal MSNBC anchor Ed Schultz on Tuesday cheered Barack Obama's veto threat for the Keystone XL pipeline. However, the cable host failed to mention his own previous support for construction. Schultz breathlessly opened his show by announcing, "We start tonight with very important breaking news. President Obama will veto the Keystone XL pipeline. If you voted for this president and you care about climate change, you have to be proud tonight." Dialing up the hyperbole, the anchor cheerleaded, "We still have a lot of power, the progressives do. The President has just cemented his legacy as one of the most pro-environmental presidents in American history." Schultz promoted his own coverage of Keystone, hyping, "We have followed this project nearly every step of the way for almost a year." - See more at: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2015/01/06/ed-schultz-cheers-obamas-veto-threat-forgets-he-supported-keystone#sthash.mBPMg1eZ.dpuf

http://www.nationaljournal.com/energy/here-are-the-9-senate-democrats-who-voted-for-keystone-20150129

Here are the 9 Senate Democrats Who Voted for Keystone

Nine Democrats voted in favor of the legislation. Moderate Democrats such as Mark Warner of Virginia and senators such as Joe Manchin and Heidi Heitkamp who represent energy-rich states crossed party lines to authorize construction of the project, which has been delayed for more than six years.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/energy/here-are-the-28-house-democrats-who-voted-to-approve-the-keystone-xl-pipeline-20150109

January 9, 2015 Twenty-eight Democrats voted with 238 Republicans to authorize construction of the controversial Keystone XL oil-sands pipeline during a House vote on Friday.
Several Democrats who backed Keystone XL Friday are members of the House Blue Dog coalition, a group of Democratic moderates. Coalition Cochairmen Kurt Schrader of Oregon, Jim Cooper of Tennessee, and Jim Costa of California sent a letter to the White House on Thursday urging swift approval of the project.

http://correctrecord.org/hillary-clinton-smart-energy-innovation/

Using excess oil profits to develop new energy technologies. Hillary Clinton proposed getting big oil companies to reinvest some of their excess profits to help reduce American dependence on oil. These investments – combined with the savings gained by repealing tax breaks for oil companies – could have directed $50 billion into a new Strategic Energy Fund geared towards researching and developing smarter energy technologies like more fuel-efficient cars and trucks, and wind and solar power.

http://correctrecord.org/stemming-the-tide-of-climate-change/

Sec. Clinton launched the Climate and Clean Air Coalition, which has 37 countries working to reduce methane emissions.

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