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147. Shades of the Lord High Executioner/The Mikado
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 06:28 PM
Jul 2015

What fun! We're getting into Gilbert and Sullivan territory here.
In the Mikado, the character of Ko-Ko, aka The Lord High Executioner, has a lovely song and it goes a little something like this:

As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list — I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed — who never would be missed!
There's the pestilential nuisances who write for autographs —
All people who have flabby hands and irritating laughs —
All children who are up in dates, and floor you with 'em flat —
All persons who in shaking hands, shake hands with you like that —
And all third persons who on spoiling tête-á-têtes insist —
They'd none of 'em be missed — they'd none of 'em be missed!
He's got 'em on the list — he's got 'em on the list;
And they'll none of 'em be missed — they'll none of 'em be missed.


Thank you! Thank you! Thank you very much! Tip your servers!
I'll be playing here all primary season!

And of course in the proud tradition of making up lists, we have a real life historical character known for his "lists" - Red-baiting, black-listing, anti-homosexual witch-hunting Senator Joseph McCarthy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy

Wheeling speech

McCarthy experienced a meteoric rise in national profile on February 9, 1950, when he gave a Lincoln Day speech to the Republican Women's Club of Wheeling, West Virginia. His words in the speech are a matter of some debate, as no audio recording was saved. However, it is generally agreed that he produced a piece of paper that he claimed contained a list of known Communists working for the State Department. McCarthy is usually quoted to have said: "The State Department is infested with communists. I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department."[36][37]

There is some dispute about whether or not McCarthy actually gave the number of people on the list as being "205" or "57". In a later telegram to President Truman, and when entering the speech into the Congressional Record, he used the number 57.[38] The origin of the number 205 can be traced: In later debates on the Senate floor, McCarthy referred to a 1946 letter that then–Secretary of State James Byrnes sent to Congressman Adolph J. Sabath. In that letter, Byrnes said State Department security investigations had resulted in "recommendation against permanent employment" for 284 persons, and that 79 of these had been removed from their jobs; this left 205 still on the State Department's payroll. In fact, by the time of McCarthy's speech only about 65 of the employees mentioned in the Byrnes letter were still with the State Department, and all of these had undergone further security checks.[39]

well, thanks for the flamebait. HERVEPA Jul 2015 #1
Flamebait? William769 Jul 2015 #3
Let me see if I can go research this, it interests me. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #14
Thanks sheshe. William769 Jul 2015 #18
Why thank her? SwampG8r Jul 2015 #136
"Flamebait"? Why is asking a question about Bernie "flamebait"? Is that just a stock retort Cha Jul 2015 #75
They? HERVEPA Jul 2015 #104
Notice when you ask something its called flamebait... Historic NY Jul 2015 #111
Fair enough! calimary Jul 2015 #142
...^ that 840high Jul 2015 #64
It happens whenever Hillary has a bad day. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #71
Is Bernie Sanders running a for profit business, or a political campaign? Snotcicles Jul 2015 #106
Stop making sense HERVEPA Jul 2015 #119
That is the exact point and shows that the OP question was pure flame bait. nt ladjf Jul 2015 #130
Absolutely hilarious quickesst Jul 2015 #99
How is that flamebait? MineralMan Jul 2015 #116
Cheap shot. Armstead Jul 2015 #2
To be honest, in Bernie's case, it's not an election per se, but a revolution. Gregorian Jul 2015 #4
Every candidate should be paying staff what they support as minimum wage. Raine1967 Jul 2015 #19
I don't think any candidates average out to $15, kind of a bummer huh Agschmid Jul 2015 #36
It's absolutely a reasonable question. calimary Jul 2015 #141
I really think it is a fair question to ask of every candidate. Raine1967 Jul 2015 #143
So his people get paid okasha Jul 2015 #69
Industrial revolution..... daleanime Jul 2015 #101
Every candidate and their supporters try to suggest a movement or revolution stevenleser Jul 2015 #159
I beg to differ. All of the other candidates are working within the system. Gregorian Jul 2015 #162
And so is Bernie, completely within the system. Let's not exaggerate. stevenleser Jul 2015 #167
You don't know what you're talking about. Gregorian Jul 2015 #169
Nearly all of his campaign workers are volunteers Bjorn Against Jul 2015 #5
You sure about that? William769 Jul 2015 #6
I have not personally seen his pay stub Bjorn Against Jul 2015 #11
I think politics pays less than some think... Agschmid Jul 2015 #15
Incredible how they create a meme out of thin air.. artislife Jul 2015 #31
Hmmmm~ sheshe2 Jul 2015 #54
Oh, Hi!! Can I expect your friends? artislife Jul 2015 #61
Are you calling me an overweight sheshe2 Jul 2015 #68
Maybe you just remind her of someone else. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #74
She Puglover Jul 2015 #108
That certainly makes Christmas shopping easier. Perhaps a nice journal. Autumn Jul 2015 #113
Evidently wants to take over the role of Diane Blair Divernan Jul 2015 #137
Shades of the Lord High Executioner/The Mikado Divernan Jul 2015 #147
I enjoy our time together. You drop by so often artislife Jul 2015 #77
I love Krispy Cremes! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #79
Join us! artislife Jul 2015 #81
Seattle seems pretty awesome. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #87
And the two states are beautiful! artislife Jul 2015 #89
If they'd stop fighting the Bern and just go with it maybe they'd be less irritable. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #93
Sugar and caffeine...best cures artislife Jul 2015 #97
This artislife Jul 2015 #163
Jury results - someone's getting nasty behind the scenes. Fozzledick Jul 2015 #92
LMAO! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #95
Bwahahahahaha 0-7 Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #103
They are making us look bad. Cut the mic! nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #107
There are times you know the alerter by the alert Autumn Jul 2015 #115
Have not been back to this OP artislife Jul 2015 #153
Volunteers don't generally get paid madokie Jul 2015 #85
Read post 7...... sheshe2 Jul 2015 #86
and are they getting time-and-a-half after 40 hours worked? brooklynite Jul 2015 #122
Here is what I read. Agschmid Jul 2015 #7
Thank you kind sir. William769 Jul 2015 #8
Yah... Agschmid Jul 2015 #10
I never understood that about William769 Jul 2015 #16
Me either... Agschmid Jul 2015 #17
Oh. I guess there will be perks later... n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #12
Ha, I went to research Williams question... sheshe2 Jul 2015 #20
To be honest it's a bit odd... Agschmid Jul 2015 #21
Agree sheshe2 Jul 2015 #26
Some businesses are actively raising the minimum wage... Agschmid Jul 2015 #29
Hmmm... sheshe2 Jul 2015 #42
I mostly mention retail because they are the companies raising their wages. Agschmid Jul 2015 #43
Not my company.... sheshe2 Jul 2015 #60
Last time that happened was in the mid-1990's but we had a POTUS with the cure azurnoir Jul 2015 #91
I agree with the problem of compression, and any minimum wage would erode eventually. Sancho Jul 2015 #100
Hillary's work for free AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #132
And here's what I read: Smarmie Doofus Jul 2015 #23
Yes it is indeed 2015... Agschmid Jul 2015 #27
Seems the OP's point bvf Jul 2015 #30
I'm not sure it was "blown out of the water"... Agschmid Jul 2015 #35
The "talk" per Sanders calls bvf Jul 2015 #45
FWIW... I'm critizing them all. Agschmid Jul 2015 #47
Excellent point. n/t bvf Jul 2015 #28
Excellent point. I hope Hillary does the same with her staff as to pay. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #126
That doesn't seem right BainsBane Jul 2015 #40
Ouch. Well, you know Republicans would use that in a general election. And it would be devastating. stevenleser Jul 2015 #118
Certainly, he puts his money where his mouth is? Cha Jul 2015 #9
I campaigned thirty hours a week for Obama unapatriciated Jul 2015 #13
I believe there is a huge difference to being a campaigner.. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #22
Hillary Clinton to hire some 'summer fellows' after reports of interns working for free azurnoir Jul 2015 #96
What does that have to do with what Bernie does (doesn't do)? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #105
Bernie's asking for $15 an hour by 2020 not right now azurnoir Jul 2015 #134
Okay; but still ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #135
why do you seem so bothered about a comparison between candidates? azurnoir Jul 2015 #139
I'm not bothered ... Just curious. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #140
Volunteers are volunteers, paid employees are different.... George II Jul 2015 #24
So in summary then... kenn3d Jul 2015 #41
If you volunteer your time, do campaigns have to report that as a donation? SunSeeker Jul 2015 #25
I don't believe so. Agschmid Jul 2015 #32
I was wondering, because there's that individual donation limit of $2,400 or something like that. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #37
Same here. Agschmid Jul 2015 #38
No, time is not money BainsBane Jul 2015 #48
I heard $12 an hour. Which is $12 an hour more than any other campaign's interns. n/t Scootaloo Jul 2015 #33
It appears the senate Interns get that rate... Agschmid Jul 2015 #39
It is a valid point, put your money where your mouth is. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #34
According to WSJ 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #44
Reminds me of the small businesses BainsBane Jul 2015 #46
Bernie needs no "excuse" for anything & he's got nothing to apologize for 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #51
I see. I was hoping principle meant something here BainsBane Jul 2015 #52
. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #55
I'm not the one engaged in intellectual and moral gymastics BainsBane Jul 2015 #58
I don't know... ibegurpard Jul 2015 #56
Let me get this straight BainsBane Jul 2015 #59
No ibegurpard Jul 2015 #67
The VT minimum wage is $9.15 an hour BainsBane Jul 2015 #76
"Interns on Sanders’ Senate office staff are paid $12 an hour... beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #78
He seems to be a stand up guy artislife Jul 2015 #80
I'm sure the poutrage brigade will find something else. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #84
It does get old unapatriciated Jul 2015 #129
yep he does want a $15.00 an hour minimum by 2020 azurnoir Jul 2015 #94
Thank you 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #121
So Sanders paying less than $15/hr is a "tempest in a teapot"? R B Garr Jul 2015 #124
You have a comprehensive list there, BB, of things that aren't "important" Cha Jul 2015 #90
your link opens with a reminder of the slave days which seems to dovetail with this azurnoir Jul 2015 #138
It's kind of laughable to say a 70-something year old man is courageous R B Garr Jul 2015 #120
So in your book, 70 year-olds can't be courageous? That's just sad, and very revealing. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #144
The subject was Bernie, not 70-year-olds, and it's a laugh to compare R B Garr Jul 2015 #150
You're right, I suspect .. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #154
LOL, all this from someone with what...60 days..90 days Bernie love? R B Garr Jul 2015 #155
OMG. I had NO idea 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #156
Haha, this is so fucking predictable. And so lame. R B Garr Jul 2015 #157
Your unabated vacuousness is duly noted. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #160
More inanity. How predictable and childish. Everything about Bernie R B Garr Jul 2015 #161
My Bernie-love's been a-brewing for well over a decade now 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #164
LOL, Bernie was never mentioned here. More phoniness. R B Garr Jul 2015 #165
Bernie wasn't "hiding out" in Vermont in these videos 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #166
Ouch! sheshe2 Jul 2015 #83
Please see 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #146
Oh you object to paying people a reasonable wage? ibegurpard Jul 2015 #49
HA! Kick! sheshe2 Jul 2015 #50
Crap. Now I have to start a thread about Hillary's unpaid interns. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #53
At least a few of them are seeming to admit that economic justice matters a small bit, delrem Jul 2015 #57
Think about how hard this is to criticize while trying to look like you care about poor people. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #62
Stuff like this explains it: delrem Jul 2015 #66
Smarmie Doofus explained Bernie's plan above: beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #70
I don't give a shit what Hillary pays her interns ibegurpard Jul 2015 #72
Um, neither do I. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #73
Don't forget the $600 haircut 840high Jul 2015 #65
Why don't you google it. 840high Jul 2015 #63
Because innuendo in an OP title is so satisfying! nt artislife Jul 2015 #82
Yes. Transparent and immature, too. 840high Jul 2015 #145
Does anyone know how much Hillary pays her Keystone lobbyist?: beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #88
OK I get it now ibegurpard Jul 2015 #98
Have someone ask him. He's not afraid to answer questions. Vinca Jul 2015 #102
Far less than wealthy private corporate interests are paying Hillary. Zorra Jul 2015 #109
Do as I say ..... BooScout Jul 2015 #110
You are absolutely correct. William769 Jul 2015 #114
Hillary pays interns nothing... ibegurpard Jul 2015 #123
wow BooScout Jul 2015 #133
we're you clutching your pearls as you typed that? ibegurpard Jul 2015 #149
Like this? cyberswede Jul 2015 #125
The good and the bad. Disappointing that he is not paying minimum $15/hr - I don't think this looks seaglass Jul 2015 #112
Thank you for your heartfelt concern for American workers LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #117
Russell's Teapot, my friend. Maedhros Jul 2015 #127
Thanks for this thread, William. It shows how Bernie supporters R B Garr Jul 2015 #128
This really was a dumb mistake by Bernie and his campaign. It completely undercuts his message. stevenleser Jul 2015 #131
you're funny ibegurpard Jul 2015 #148
What's funny is that you don't see it. This will be in the top 3 of items Republicans would stevenleser Jul 2015 #158
Finally ... It was a while coming, but well deserved ... Trajan Jul 2015 #151
Scrape that barrel! arcane1 Jul 2015 #152
I'm sure he isn't paying a minimum of $15 an hour. George II Jul 2015 #168
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