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zeemike

(18,998 posts)
49. I would like to create a law...call it Zeemikes law if you will.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:28 PM
Aug 2015

And if Godwin can do it why not me...the law states;

All movements no matter what they are about can and will be co-oped.

And this is based on observations not just a pull it out of my ass.
When you are dealing with large amounts of money you can buy anything...and those at the top have more money now than ever in history.

Bless you . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #1
unfortunately gobears10 Aug 2015 #273
"They are identity politics reductionists" Number23 Aug 2015 #2
"You'll fit in beautifully on DU, I'll definitely give you that." NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #11
You got that right Number23 Aug 2015 #18
VERY well put, thank you. George II Aug 2015 #52
Thank you for saying this. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #64
Bernie is just as good on fighting racism as HRC Ken Burch Aug 2015 #73
ok… don;t know what this has to do with Raine1967 Aug 2015 #83
clogged minds, plugged ears and sadly, heaven05 Aug 2015 #265
I wish I could rec this and make it required reading mcar Aug 2015 #117
Please explain to me what "your" issues are, that are not "issues" for POC also passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #221
Read that post again. Very, very slowly. Number23 Aug 2015 #222
Yeah sorry...I may have taken your post wrong passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #223
Righteous rant. ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #231
Yep gollygee Aug 2015 #241
Right on the mark heaven05 Aug 2015 #266
Their efforts to sow dissension are laughable. Black folks are 85% for Hillary right now and if Number23 Aug 2015 #270
Yes on the OWS failure heaven05 Aug 2015 #271
A beauty contest? jalan48 Aug 2015 #20
Uh, yeah ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #25
YW -I should have known with the pic under your name. Very nice! jalan48 Aug 2015 #31
Ask her what she had to say about Hillary back in '08 if you want the conversation A Simple Game Aug 2015 #174
Wha? Not a Hillary supporter? jalan48 Aug 2015 #195
I knew there would be diatribes against BLM murielm99 Aug 2015 #26
Do you remember the name of the BLM representative who was sufrommich Aug 2015 #29
Where's the diatribe? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #30
You know the answer to that question! nt 7962 Aug 2015 #51
Yep. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #150
Don't we all. romanic Aug 2015 #160
A non black poc talking shit about us black ones. bravenak Aug 2015 #129
It's kinda unreal, brave.. but this is DU now.. so it's more like business as usual. All I can Cha Aug 2015 #141
It is unreal. The zealotry. bravenak Aug 2015 #142
This OP won the support of the poc that have said "Fuck Black Twitter," denigrated #BLM Number23 Aug 2015 #218
Exactly. They saw PoC and got all wild.nt bravenak Aug 2015 #226
Which Candidate do YOU think will Best Support Policy Positions of BLM- (of those currently running) KoKo Aug 2015 #220
Dunno. I prefer Bernie. bravenak Aug 2015 #227
He does seem to be better at addressing issues that many of us care about. n/t KoKo Aug 2015 #247
Ah, now I remember. Wasn't it a college essay? freshwest Aug 2015 #250
Yes. Precisely like that essay. bravenak Aug 2015 #251
Well, according to some here ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #44
See, Nance.... JackInGreen Aug 2015 #55
Nance, here's a more worthy meme than we often hear online: freshwest Aug 2015 #249
Bernie is running for the Democratic nomination. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #75
Of course it matters. By running, he will undermine the party for decades to come Sheepshank Aug 2015 #200
Quick! Get yourself to the fainting couch! Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #206
what's that the Bernie camp keeps saying:"If you dont have something to saud, insult" Sheepshank Aug 2015 #209
I'm sorry, your post deserved little more. It's pure bubbling inanity. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #234
Between 1993 and 2001, we were in disarray for lack of unity and party building Ken Burch Aug 2015 #216
He's not an Independent in this race ffs. You keep saying that, it's obvious you are using it cui bono Aug 2015 #156
+1 beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #163
He is an independent, murielm99 Aug 2015 #166
But he's running for the Democratic nomination. nt 7962 Aug 2015 #194
He's not a Dem and doest believe in being a Dem Sheepshank Aug 2015 #208
Oh for fucks sake. I already posted all the links for you about this. cui bono Aug 2015 #255
No, but I can read your posts and that's all I need. cui bono Aug 2015 #254
I like your use of scare quotes around "person of color" Scootaloo Aug 2015 #39
I see two possibilities. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #176
its really frustrating to see those who claim to support him do this JI7 Aug 2015 #59
And yet Clinton is hiding some where not making any statements re. her support of fracking, rhett o rick Aug 2015 #136
wow ellennelle Aug 2015 #62
Respect from this crowd is as rare as rain in the desert. Number23 Aug 2015 #80
calls black activists "identity politics reductionists" AlbertCat Aug 2015 #203
"Conclusive" proof would be every single poll that has Hillary winning in every single demographic Number23 Aug 2015 #217
Why would you even bother typing that? AlbertCat Aug 2015 #225
I have absolutely no idea why you are responding to me, particularly as its obvious that you are Number23 Aug 2015 #248
I've said that he is losing every single demographic in the polls. AlbertCat Aug 2015 #258
Even from your stupid little links HE IS LOSING. Number23 Aug 2015 #261
Who said he was winning? AlbertCat Aug 2015 #267
"keep those right wing memes coming" Number23 Aug 2015 #269
I had to reread this OP to find where s/he said chervilant Aug 2015 #264
Thank you so much for setting the record straight on this 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #3
She wasn't a No-Show. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #21
Please don't deal in facts. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #28
I've noticed. nt Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #35
They just can't get over that reality, can they? She was previously (PREVIOUSLY!) scheduled to be.. George II Aug 2015 #66
A "no show"? No she wasn't,in fact she made it clear that sufrommich Aug 2015 #27
Hillary was invited, and she said "No, I won't attend" 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #47
Oops, did you say elephant? nt artislife Aug 2015 #60
"She was the keynote speaker at an annual DEMOCRATIC Dinner, in a red state teetering on turning Cha Aug 2015 #147
and all way too convenient Needa Moment Aug 2015 #210
Don't care what your interpretation is. It's important to many people that Hillary was there. Cha Aug 2015 #232
So, that means she didn't show up. cui bono Aug 2015 #157
That's not what "no show" means. sufrommich Aug 2015 #193
I don't think that is the definition. I think a no show is someone who doesn't show up cui bono Aug 2015 #256
I would not say you can generalize about the folks in this movement Report1212 Aug 2015 #4
it's definitely as broad as OWS was, so there's gonna be a LOT of different factions MisterP Aug 2015 #54
Dismiss the black vote at your peril, Bernie supporters. nt Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #5
My Black vote was not dismissed in any way by that OP KeepItReal Aug 2015 #42
exactly! gobears10 Aug 2015 #46
Yes, +1 on that second paragraph. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #187
Only focused on "identity politics"... Beartracks Aug 2015 #228
Very true. Especially your second paragraph. Nt Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #48
Bernie's certainly not dismissing the black voters. lark Aug 2015 #204
Still credible in my view. zappaman Aug 2015 #6
The movement? Absolutely credible. winter is coming Aug 2015 #17
It's obvious, transparent bullshit n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #24
exactly! Vattel Aug 2015 #56
WoW DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #7
BLM's leadership does appear to have a candidate. SolutionisSolidarity Aug 2015 #8
If BS isn't connecting with PoCs ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #14
Fortunately, he is connecting with them. BLM is one group that prefers Clinton. arcane1 Aug 2015 #16
According to the polls ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #23
Nobody is stupid enough to say he has unanimous support, nor stupid enough to say he has none. arcane1 Aug 2015 #87
I never said he has "none" ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #89
I'm glad we're in agreement n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #90
We will see about that. SolutionisSolidarity Aug 2015 #32
Bernie obviously connected with the op who is a poc. Why are you dismissing them? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #33
The poll numbers have been pretty clear. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #65
I'm not talking about polls, I'm talking about respecting the op's right to an opinion. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #155
Not to mention the numbers of PoC here on DU ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #184
We hope to change those poll numbers. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #188
Statistically speaking mythology Aug 2015 #72
He set that trap by spending his entire life doing the right thing virtualobserver Aug 2015 #40
There is "nothing wrong" with those people. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #67
long way to go ibegurpard Aug 2015 #78
Have you looked at the polls? NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #85
Yeah I've looked at the polls ibegurpard Aug 2015 #86
Yeah, looks like HRC is tanking ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #135
Aren't political polls, particularly in the US, deliberately commissioned with a view to Joe Chi Minh Aug 2015 #173
Saying a post is "childish" ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #201
We live and learn... Joe Chi Minh Aug 2015 #219
not yet.....and certainly not because of "a trap he's set for himself." virtualobserver Aug 2015 #81
But he is. There just happens to be some of them who prefer another candidate cui bono Aug 2015 #158
K-Street ploys and it is more than a chess game . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #15
it might be a trap for someone ibegurpard Aug 2015 #79
Yes, Sanders is handling the heat very well. Maedhros Aug 2015 #143
There is that. nt nc4bo Aug 2015 #191
most definitely. It's also the candidate who went racist during the 2008 primary Doctor_J Aug 2015 #123
Great Post catnhatnh Aug 2015 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Aug 2015 #10
Good op, gobears10. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #12
Exactly! It's sad to see people exploiting the cause behind BLM, just for cheap political points. arcane1 Aug 2015 #100
We've been hearing this for months, the only poc who matter are the ones who support Hillary. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #151
I haven't seen anyone here say that. lovemydog Aug 2015 #159
Her supporters are doing it in this thread. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #161
Dammit. That sucks if that's what they're doing. lovemydog Aug 2015 #165
Check out the poc in this thread who are agreeing with the op but being completely ignored. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #167
Okay. Gotcha. Also note that lovemydog Aug 2015 #168
I know. I try to read all the posts and listen to everyone's pov. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #170
That's cool. Same here. It would be really funny lovemydog Aug 2015 #171
That would be hysterical! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #172
That happened over on Daily Kos a time or two. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #177
Thank you. Thank you so much. n/t delrem Aug 2015 #13
Because of your DU name, "gobears", I was prepared to dismiss your post guillaumeb Aug 2015 #19
Cool story! n/t Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #22
Absolutely. Wonderful post! Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #34
Because it directly challenges the meme that poc don't support Bernie. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #38
Some of the replies are pretty crude. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #45
They want to shame and shout down everyone who doesn't support Hillary. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #153
Brick walls. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #213
YES! The HC supporters who keep screaming at us to listen should take their own advice. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #246
Oh well ibegurpard Aug 2015 #36
Thank you for a well thought out and eloquent post. wilsonbooks Aug 2015 #37
Thank you JackInGreen Aug 2015 #41
I'm an O'Malley supporter JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #43
AMEN! Raine1967 Aug 2015 #58
Witness here. And, it will really get interesting if Biden throws his hat into the ring. Hiraeth Aug 2015 #196
The more I see of O'M the better I like him. But his polling numbers are dismal. The Democratic... freshwest Aug 2015 #252
It's okay that they are dismal JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #262
Yes, he has a track track record. I feel like he's being denied coverage. freshwest Aug 2015 #263
I would like to create a law...call it Zeemikes law if you will. zeemike Aug 2015 #49
I like your way of thinking JackInGreen Aug 2015 #57
Good to keep in mind dougolat Aug 2015 #76
You're right, of course. Now prepared to be BLASTED for it! 7962 Aug 2015 #50
They have thrown their support behind Hillary, no problem. Smearing Bernie, big problem. GoneFishin Aug 2015 #53
one of the best posts I have ever read on DU Skittles Aug 2015 #61
That is exactly my thinking as well. n/t cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #95
+ another, excellent OP dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #149
One undivided movement -- many contours Rilgin Aug 2015 #63
Who is the "representative of BLM was on MSNBC" ? Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 #68
Not all "people of color" have the same experience. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #69
Being a white person, aren't you even the slightest bit embarrassed whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #77
I have said, ad infinitum and ad nauseum, I am white DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #94
You mean the group Bernie Sanders is from whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #101
I never peered into the senator's heart and found him wanting. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #103
Yet you, unembarassedly, do it ... day in and day out. Do you NOT have a mirror? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #99
Ha bull! whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #102
This thread is Example #1 DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #104
I attempt to speak for whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #111
I call your bull ... and raise you 2 kittens and a pony ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #108
Not presuming to speak for people of color whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #114
That is why I wrote ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #121
Everyone in here lectures whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #122
Okay; but, have you considered that to the group you are seeking to influence ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #128
I didn't imply that at all whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #134
I appreciate what you are saying ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #179
Does anybody see the irony that our interlocutor has nothing unkind ... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #107
That doesn't matter ... BLM has failed to pay proper homage ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #112
This is the post I made that our interlocutor took exception to. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #116
From my experience ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #124
This not-so-clever sub thread whisper game some people love to do whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #126
It is amazing you have targeted me for opprobrium and censure. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #133
This silly game will end soon whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #120
That didn't take you long. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #125
What whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #127
Kicked for later reading. Interesting at the outset... n/t bvf Aug 2015 #70
LINK? A representative of BLM was on MSNBC, in which he praised Hillary Clinton's recent statements uhnope Aug 2015 #71
If you are a woman, you are all too used to being scolded about "tone" eridani Aug 2015 #74
That horse left the barn a long time ago. And the folks a'kicking and a'recing this Number23 Aug 2015 #84
but by that rule wouldn't the Sanders campaign count as a group fighting for social justice? MisterP Aug 2015 #110
Exactly, and women would be just as angry if someone told them that they should be stevenleser Aug 2015 #132
Oh this whole issue got tone-argumented from the first minute. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #146
Psst - you do realize much of the outrage over Sanders is about his "tone". Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #180
No ... It's NOT his "tone", it's his message. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #186
Tone is message too. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #189
Nope, tone is the way it is delivered. Trust me- been hearing about the "tone" even here as it bettyellen Aug 2015 #272
My, unsolicited and no doubt undesired advice, would be for Bernie's campaign to step back ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #82
Good advice I'm sure he will continue to heed ibegurpard Aug 2015 #88
If only ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #105
he will ibegurpard Aug 2015 #113
Agreed. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #118
I don't think the vast majority of Bernie supporters are in any way against Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #182
Good point, though I didn't mean to suggest ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #183
Possible, although I think Bernie's been enough of a rock on economic justice Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #185
That comes off as a pretty slimy insinuation of racism among Sanders supporters. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #238
I think you are ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #243
I too would like to see a link of the MSNBC Segment..... n8dogg83 Aug 2015 #91
All kinds of this JackInGreen Aug 2015 #92
yup ibegurpard Aug 2015 #93
I don't understand it either, gobears, they're both incredibly important issues; Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #96
Excellent post. LuvNewcastle Aug 2015 #97
Excellent post. You're going to need Space Shuttle style heat-resistant tiles to keep from getting cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #98
It seems to me that... kenn3d Aug 2015 #106
AAs are tightly welded to the Dem party and Clinton is said party's "officialist" candidate MisterP Aug 2015 #115
Have they forgotten Clinton's "welfare reform" laws that were put in to effect then? cascadiance Aug 2015 #215
the party's establishment is set up on getting voters to forget MisterP Aug 2015 #244
Look on the bright side. BKH70041 Aug 2015 #109
Let me hip you to a cold fact. The people who make up that movement are committed and Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #119
A long winded OP that attempts to deny the reality that Bernie isn't connecting with minorities stevenleser Aug 2015 #130
Oh please. tblue Aug 2015 #139
He could start supporting more wars in the middle east. raouldukelives Aug 2015 #181
Really.. I'm sure the Protesters at #BlackLivesMatters will do just fine without the Op. they Cha Aug 2015 #140
+1, keyword ... MINORITIE(S) ... no just black folk .. I wish this wasn't looked at so much as a... uponit7771 Aug 2015 #148
Bookmarking this as proof of why Bernie lost the election.ng bravenak Aug 2015 #131
Damn fine post! TM99 Aug 2015 #137
I am black and passionate about Bernie tblue Aug 2015 #138
Thank you. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #154
I, too, am not black awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #144
Ta-Nehisi Coates writes at length about the impact of economic injustice here: Maedhros Aug 2015 #145
Thom Hartmann is good in relaying Robert Reich's comments on this situation... cascadiance Aug 2015 #152
i'm a non black minority and i don't worry about cops stopping me for no reason JI7 Aug 2015 #162
YES! romanic Aug 2015 #164
Eloquent and comprehensive. Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #169
I suppose any black American can claim to be a BLM leader, and our bought-and-paid-for ... Scuba Aug 2015 #175
Oh, it's a Bernie post. Darb Aug 2015 #178
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #190
Expect some straw man disparagement of your OP Babel_17 Aug 2015 #192
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #197
Who was the representative from Black Lives Matter? Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #198
Third time in this thread posters have asked OP for a link Person 2713 Aug 2015 #199
This.If you're going to bash the leadership and representatives sufrommich Aug 2015 #202
"It almost sounds like Hillary, her campaign, and BLM's "representatives"" . . . Triana Aug 2015 #205
Some people do not have the luxury of hoping for change down the road. McCamy Taylor Aug 2015 #207
Hillary, more than any other candidate, represents the status quo whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #211
LINK? LINK? LINK? to BLM on MSNBC saying those things???? uhnope Aug 2015 #212
I nominate this post for the DUlitzer Prize for Truth in Posting. Zorra Aug 2015 #214
It is unmitigated BULLSHIT heaven05 Aug 2015 #230
When you can't divide by race then divide by class. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #268
I think there's a simpler thing occurring. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #224
I have one response heaven05 Aug 2015 #229
Oh stop. romanic Aug 2015 #233
this is not a black DUer heaven05 Aug 2015 #236
Believe me the feeling is mutual. romanic Aug 2015 #260
Don't bother with that one. He/she/it is drowning in self-righteous wrath. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #239
Mahalo for this, heaven.. I know this is true.. and this is coming from someone of European Cha Aug 2015 #235
Sure doesn't. These "pretenders" amuse me to no end heaven05 Aug 2015 #237
And, look how many people are buying into it.. it says everything about them Cha Aug 2015 #240
Some of the "liberals" and "progressives" heaven05 Aug 2015 #245
I can barely speak on this subject. Thanks for your strong opinion and posts. n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #253
Brevity is the soul of wit. Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #242
Exactly. It's both a Race and Class Analysis i.e. Socio-economic inequality and injustice. 2banon Aug 2015 #257
Still do not understand what you mean! akbacchus_BC Aug 2015 #259
Bernie's whole career has been about Civil Rights. Which is why sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #274
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