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2016 Postmortem

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8. naturally, when republicans were on the other side of the coin,...:

Reply to MindMover (Original post)

Sun Jul 1, 2012, 11:03 AM

Jul 2012

from 2010, when they were trying to stop aca from getting passed in the first place:

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/03/hidden-cloture-in-reconciliation/

As it turns out, Senate Democrats may not be able to force healthcare legislation through the chamber on a simple majority vote.
Republicans say they have found a loophole in the budget reconciliation process that could allow them to offer an indefinite number of amendments.
Though it has never been done, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) says he’s prepared to test the Senate’s stamina to block the Democrats from using the process to expedite changes to the healthcare bill.
Experts on Senate procedural rules, from both parties, note that such a filibuster is possible. While reconciliation rules limit debate to 20 hours, senators lack similiarconstraints on amendments and could conceivably continue offering them until 60 members agree to cut the process off.

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Mitch McConnell: GOP Only Needs 51 Votes to Overturn Mandate [View all] MindMover Jul 2012 OP

Not sure about that.. SCOTUS declared it a tax but the law itself does not. DCBob Jul 2012 #1

Did SCOTUS really say it was a Tax? Rosanna Lopez Jul 2012 #13

Here's my understanding. Igel Jul 2012 #16

Well then, when the Republicans try to kill it with reconciliation... Kablooie Jul 2012 #17

Yeah, well good luck with that TlalocW Jul 2012 #2

obviously it only matters if republicans hit the trifecta unblock Jul 2012 #9

What about if the Demorcats filibustered ? Mr. Sparkle Jul 2012 #3

If its a tax then they can use "budget reconciliation" which only requires simple majority. DCBob Jul 2012 #5

What about if it is a penalty / fine. Can that be as easily removed as well? Mr. Sparkle Jul 2012 #10

I think only if its a tax can they use the budget reconcilation route. DCBob Jul 2012 #11

if it is a fine penalty littlewolf Jul 2012 #12

reconciliation is a way to bypass the 60-vote cloture requirement. unblock Jul 2012 #6

but the tax doesn't fund the insurance industry, so he can't repeal the regulations unblock Jul 2012 #4

Keep feeding the fringe BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #7

naturally, when republicans were on the other side of the coin,...: unblock Jul 2012 #8

No, they also need the Presidency. Arkana Jul 2012 #14

How many votes are required to expel McChinless from the Senate? - n/t coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #15

51% if someone is running against him... nt littlewolf Jul 2012 #18

Yeah, but I was actually hoping the Senate itself might do the honors. (One coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #20

Okay, why in the hell are Ins. companies letting them do this? sofa king Jul 2012 #19

Only if they have the whitehouse too quaker bill Jul 2012 #21

As long as Obama's president, they can't override his veto. backscatter712 Jul 2012 #22

Mitch McConnell is an evil, subhuman reptile. backscatter712 Jul 2012 #23