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The Traveler

(5,632 posts)
21. Ground field advantages
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 10:53 PM
Aug 2015

The Clinton campaign will be well organized ... but will its ground game players have the energy?

I'm looking at those crowds. That's a lot of excitement and energy this early in the process. If 10% of the attendees become volunteers ... yeah. I wonder what a typical figure for that would be ... 1 out of 10? 2/10? Dunno. But I think it likely Sanders' ground army will be bigger and more energized than Clinton's. And that can have a huge effect on the race.

Where I think Nate Silver is absolutely right is with respect to black Americans and latinos. Sanders has to attract a much higher percentage of those groups than he is right at this moment.

But I don't think black Americans are as immune to the economic justice argument as this panel presumes. Racism has long been recognized by blacks as a method for maintaining economic control. Martin Luther King certainly knew it, and spoke about it. I doubt Malcom X would have argued against the point. Cornel West knows it. Sanders is not well known in those communities ... but that means he has an opportunity to connect with people of color. It remains to be seen if he can actually do so.

If he can ... all bets are off. This is not a normal election cycle. People have had it with the status quo and the political class. There's a lot of anger out there. And Bernie Sanders is one of the two beneficiaries of that frustration. The other is Trump, of course.

On a separate note, I watched part of Trump's event tonight ... this man is dangerous in every sense of the word. I think it is very unwise to presume that he will be unable to channel the public's anger at the establishment. We are prone to think of him as a buffoon. But he's not. He knows how to work a crowd. We better not underestimate him.

Trav

538: "This Is How Bernie Sanders Could Win" [View all] Attorney in Texas Aug 2015 OP
Of course he can win musiclawyer Aug 2015 #1
There is a very nice chart here: Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #3
I think those two lines will cross in by October! peacebird Aug 2015 #8
Sanders will get a boost when they stop including Biden WHO'S NOT RUNNING! Including non-candidate Attorney in Texas Aug 2015 #11
He'll get some... uberblonde Aug 2015 #18
Hillary's numbers are much lower now then when that poll was taken. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #27
Clinton's polling numbers have fallen thru an important psychological barrier in about 6 states HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #29
Unpossible! I had a Hillary supporter tell me several times that Bernie had stalled LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #26
The nominee wins by getting the most delegates. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #2
Hillary learned that the last time.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #4
Hey you are using a broad brush, Obama won fair and square, he has been goid for the US. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #12
There are Hillary supporters who are still pissed that it was TAKEN from her the last time.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #13
Hillary won the popular vote. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #15
So? Flying Squirrel Aug 2015 #16
Ahem... gcomeau Aug 2015 #17
Ok. Still impressive though. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #19
Oopsie! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #20
Voters? daleanime Aug 2015 #10
I read the entire article.. It's a good read OKNancy Aug 2015 #5
Yeah,I don't think a lot of Sanders supporters reccing sufrommich Aug 2015 #7
and not to spoil the Bernie Party but can the Hair do the same thing? eom a kennedy Aug 2015 #6
You mean the troll?.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #14
Well I would point out that every Dem that won the WH sense Carter zeemike Aug 2015 #9
Ground field advantages The Traveler Aug 2015 #21
Trump will get Trumped RobertEarl Aug 2015 #22
Trump reminded me of something The Traveler Aug 2015 #23
That works for me RobertEarl Aug 2015 #24
It will take a major collapse or scandal for Sanders to have a chance Gothmog Aug 2015 #25
The major collapse thing... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #30
Wrong! All it will take is to get people to know Bernie. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #31
The sad sub-headline says "We try to say something nice about #feelthebern’s quest for the MADem Aug 2015 #28
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