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MADem

(135,425 posts)
81. Pro tip--he doesn't defend that pile of dreck. He has called it "stupid" and "awful"
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 03:31 PM
Sep 2015

and he has iterated and RE-iterated that it does NOT REFLECT HIS PRESENT VIEWS with regard to women and he has very forthrightly disavowed it.

And he wasn't a child--he was running for public office around that time frame. He'd divorced his college wife. He'd fathered a child with another woman (and the fundies would make a big point of noting that it was Outside The Sanctity Of Holy Matrimony Praise Jesus). He'd already said he was a pacifist and unsuccessfully petitioned the government for CO status. He was active in radical VT politics.

"Very young?" He was old enough to do all that. He was no 'baby.'

Hillary was working for the House of Representatives on the Nixon impeachment around the time he wrote that thing--and she's YOUNGER than him.

Good grief, the infantalizing is absurd! And it shows your bias--really, it does. You will excuse him anything, and her, nothing.

The best response is "He said it was stupid and he disavows it." No 'explanation' can make that pile of garbage right--despite the best efforts of people who thought they were helping him by writing tortured articles on "What he REEEEEEALLY meant." He didn't ask for their help and his "explanation" (it was stupid, I disavow it) is the appropriate one.

Of course they are different things--Bernie wasn't ever IN a war zone (despite his hawkish attitudes towards the conflicts in the region at that time). Hillary never wrote a horrible, stupid, essay about how some morons view sex roles and condone violence as a secret wish.

But see how you try to parse, to find difference, to "defend" when there's no need? Hummmmph--Hillary MISREPRESENTED FACTS, you insist. Are you saying Bernie DIDN'T misrepresent facts? That women DO like to be violated violently by strangers? EWWWWW. See how that shit works?

I would advise that when you're stuck in a hole, stop digging. Bernie and Hill know to do that--he did by saying his essay was trash. Hillary admitted her mistake.

Your insistence that "factual" Bernie's A-OK...but oh, that lyin' HILLARY....! is utter nonsense. And based on those writings, I'd be a bit concerned about not just OPPO research, but old fashioned REPORTING (which is what found that piece in the first place).

Everyone's back home now, vacations over, kids in school--people are going to start paying attention. Faux will eventually turn their attention from the Klown Kar, once those buffoons run out of money and start dropping like flies.

HRC has been vetted, Sanders has not. Since you're so invested in nitpicking, do understand that this kind of thing isn't a one way street. Stand by. The 4th Estate (or Faux--who must be differentiated since they aren't really "news&quot might not be his friend.

It's all pointless and it is stupid. But volleys will be returned, because that's the nature of the game. You'd think the smart move would be to not attack over resolved horse shit in the first place...I guess that's too much to ask.

Rather than snarky, re-hashing "I'll put it here" threads, why not a thread boosting a candidate?

Tear downs are so easy--build-ups, not so much, I guess.

And then Gummy Bearz said catnhatnh Sep 2015 #1
Do all politicians lie? Agschmid Sep 2015 #3
People lie GummyBearz Sep 2015 #92
I would say it again GummyBearz Sep 2015 #93
And she admitted it. MADem Sep 2015 #2
That really is not the same thing. Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #21
And he's running for commander in chief, too.... MADem Sep 2015 #37
No Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #75
Before you tell me "no," you need to go look up what MADem Sep 2015 #83
Watch how easily she lied. Watch her face and listen to her voice artislife Sep 2015 #85
Oh MY--watch how easily Bernie Sanders lied for years on his campaign literature and biography MADem Sep 2015 #86
Oops...this is artislife Sep 2015 #88
Whatever you said there, it's word salad. "I cannot begin to fathom your reasoning skills." MADem Sep 2015 #89
Always a pleasure read your posts. artislife Sep 2015 #90
Bernie wrote a piece on women's liberation from the point of view of a frustrated young JDPriestly Sep 2015 #77
Pro tip--he doesn't defend that pile of dreck. He has called it "stupid" and "awful" MADem Sep 2015 #81
I read BErnie's story. It expresses the frustration of a guy jilted by a woman wanting to be JDPriestly Sep 2015 #84
What's worse? To lie (or misremember) an event, or lie (or misremember) who the mother of MADem Sep 2015 #91
Bernie voted against the draft, that is for ending the draft. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #94
No need to be "sorry." That said, the "pacifist" affectation, the request for CO status, all that MADem Sep 2015 #95
I don't think that Democrats care at all about that at this point. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #98
Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #4
Why are you responding to yourself with hypothetical scenario's? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #6
Just to let you know, I didn't put the alert on your first thread, and refused to serve on a jury on still_one Sep 2015 #14
And then DemocratSinceBirth said catnhatnh Sep 2015 #5
Why are you mocking other DU members? riversedge Sep 2015 #10
They aren't... Agschmid Sep 2015 #11
Problem is I don't want my post to appear in this thread. I posted it to let him know it belongs in still_one Sep 2015 #24
It does. Agschmid Sep 2015 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Sep 2015 #29
Can't be locked, could be hidden if someone alerts on a post. Agschmid Sep 2015 #40
It is a stupid game --acting like a school yard bully who didn't get her/his way. riversedge Sep 2015 #28
I guess this is the way the OP behaves. It is really bullshit. The DU members he is still_one Sep 2015 #39
So sorry for you and others caught up in this riversedge Sep 2015 #44
I cannot even edit, what is being attributed to me. This should really be a violation of TOS. It still_one Sep 2015 #47
"some Bernie supporters" cyberswede Sep 2015 #64
you are right. I will edit, thanks still_one Sep 2015 #65
Appreciate that! cyberswede Sep 2015 #67
when your right your right, thanks still_one Sep 2015 #68
It seems the suggestion to repost in GD:P is being taken a bit too literally. arcane1 Sep 2015 #41
Yup. Agschmid Sep 2015 #43
They have a hidden post now, so I guess that's over. arcane1 Sep 2015 #57
It's weird, but also hilarious Scootaloo Sep 2015 #53
Indeed. Agschmid Sep 2015 #54
And then the OP got locked out for quoting one of the previous posts. morningfog Sep 2015 #56
Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #7
And then I said catnhatnh Sep 2015 #8
And then I said catnhatnh Sep 2015 #9
If you're having an episode of some sort, perhaps we can help? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #13
Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #12
Next doc03 said catnhatnh Sep 2015 #15
That was just a mistake, it's easy confuse sniper fire with being greeted by a little girl. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #16
Because you have a tech issue... Agschmid Sep 2015 #20
The video on the OP's link wouldn't play so I posted one that did. n/t Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #23
So it want scrubbed then... Agschmid Sep 2015 #25
Well it wouldn't play so perhaps it was scrubbed, my video will play, if you care to view it. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #30
I have viewed it many times, it's pretty common knowledge, and certainly not scrubbed. Agschmid Sep 2015 #38
I just tried it again, there is nothing but a black screen with a white arrow and Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #45
After that NotoriousRBG posted catnhatnh Sep 2015 #17
After that elenhhhha asked catnhatnh Sep 2015 #18
Ended Brian Williams whole career 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #19
^^^this^^^ L0oniX Sep 2015 #50
+1 840high Sep 2015 #61
Nailed it. LeftOfWest Sep 2015 #97
And then still-one brought a strawman victim catnhatnh Sep 2015 #22
Next bowens43 remarked catnhatnh Sep 2015 #26
Then PatrickforO completely elided over the offense... catnhatnh Sep 2015 #31
I asked was this.... catnhatnh Sep 2015 #32
global1 questioned catnhatnh Sep 2015 #33
I replied catnhatnh Sep 2015 #34
Beaverhausen, having nothing on topic to add posted catnhatnh Sep 2015 #35
In before the lock Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #36
Between this and trying to draw Powell into the classified email scandal, she really must not be Skwmom Sep 2015 #42
yes, silly you. But not for the reasons you writie. riversedge Sep 2015 #46
And military loves "conscientious objectors" who voted for war? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #49
Bernie voted against the Iraq War. Do you think the military is raring to be sent back Skwmom Sep 2015 #52
And voted FOR the Afghanistan War. And Kosovo. And... SonderWoman Sep 2015 #55
Voting to go after Bin Laden and intervene in a genocide is not voting for war. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #76
My husband is one of those military guys. Military men know the email crap is bullshit. leftofcool Sep 2015 #79
I am military and I'm voting for her. Not sure what you're saying there. Sounds ugly, though. MADem Sep 2015 #59
+1 DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #82
It stays. Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Sep 2015 #58
You have no way of knowing who the jurors were Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #60
You have a point, I self-deleted. still_one Sep 2015 #63
You're not able to delete LTZ's post that quotes you, just above. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #66
Am I talking to you? Here is the difference bud. If someone points out a error in my judgement still_one Sep 2015 #69
You have a good day too. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #73
Thanks for letting us know what was deleted Le Taz Hot LeftOfWest Sep 2015 #96
Gosh. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #51
Did you start this thread... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #62
Interesting technique. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #70
?????????????????????? MFM008 Sep 2015 #71
I love the smell of desperation. It smells like.....victory. For Clinton. McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #72
Hillary is already victorious, Bernie supporters just don't know it yet. leftofcool Sep 2015 #74
I think that endless war and coddling banksters are much more important issues n/t eridani Sep 2015 #78
I don't care what a poster says but calling out other posters by name used to be verboten. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #80
A lot of things used to be verboten. Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #87
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