2016 Postmortem

restorefreedom

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46. then its time to remake the gop

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:33 AM

Sep 2015

you can say i am pie in the sky (and sometimes i am), but we have to try and get the gop back to a sane conservative party.

several people here have mentioned the importance of all the races not just the presidency. I think we have to remember that. I also wonder about the strategy in states where it is possible, to do a crossover vote in the Republican primaries statewide and vote for someone who might be reasonable over someone who is a lunatic. I think this has to be done very carefully and probably only in states where the Democratic candidate has a very high probability of winning the general race. I don't know, I'd have to think more about that. But we have to do something about the GOP.

as for the Bernie and Hillary votes, I totally disagree with the bad votes that Bernie and hillary have done. I understand why, but I still don't like it.

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Voters Raise Concerns About Bernie Sanders� Record On Guns [View all] big_dog Sep 2015 OP

Snore AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #1

K & R Koinos Sep 2015 #2

What is it, the third time around? Brock Kentman Sep 2015 #3

4 or 5 Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #6

Recycling: It's not just for trash!! (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #19

l.o.l. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #25

That would be the same type of recycling as the "Hillary gets all her money from Wall St" chart? brooklynite Sep 2015 #41

No, the difference is this keeps being brought back up after it fails to persuade anyone. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #42

...just like the "Hillary gets all her money from Wall Street" chart brooklynite Sep 2015 #80

Yup. This week's featured meme is "Gun Nut". beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #71

Almost like it came down from HQ. senz Sep 2015 #73

The original "Bernie Sanders, Gun Nut" hit piece was posted as an OP on DU 5 times. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #75

Love the smell of desperation in the morning... senz Sep 2015 #76

Thom Hartmann talked about this today and reminded his listeners Fawke Em Sep 2015 #87

The people who need to listen won't. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #88

voters? Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #4

According to the article only one said she won't vote for him. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #5

All this nonsense means is they don't have a lot to throw against Bernie. hedda_foil Sep 2015 #7

What is this? Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #8

For "marganlized people" He also has the best platform for the middle class. Oh, I forgot, Skwmom Sep 2015 #9

I raise concerns about a candidate that voted for a war of agression and all the people ... slipslidingaway Sep 2015 #10

Sanders is right on the money on guns bluestateguy Sep 2015 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author pablo_marmol Sep 2015 #16

^^This. pablo_marmol Sep 2015 #17

Maybe we need more guns John Poet Sep 2015 #24

Found that old chew toy of yours, eh? bvf Sep 2015 #12

Keep trying Fuddnik Sep 2015 #13

think progress is part of the Hillary machine cali Sep 2015 #14

:D C Moon Sep 2015 #15

So does the NRA, which grades him D minus n/t eridani Sep 2015 #18

I think his record on that issue is fine (nt) bigwillq Sep 2015 #20

This dog shit didn't stick the first dozen times Camp Weathervane flung it. 99Forever Sep 2015 #21

His views on guns are mainstream. nt hack89 Sep 2015 #22

Fair Enough - He's less than ideal on this IMO. BUT... Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 #23

+1 Dems to Win Sep 2015 #83

Can't help but notice the dismissive responses here from people who pretend to care about policy. DanTex Sep 2015 #26

d minus nra rating restorefreedom Sep 2015 #29

Policy: Brady Bill, and gun industry immunity. But I get it, you don't care about policy. DanTex Sep 2015 #30

can we try and be grown ups about this? restorefreedom Sep 2015 #32

Your last post was about the meaningless NRA rating. DanTex Sep 2015 #34

also keep in mind restorefreedom Sep 2015 #36

I get that he's from Vermont, but those were still bad votes. DanTex Sep 2015 #38

then its time to remake the gop restorefreedom Sep 2015 #46

Hillary Clinton supported taking Welfare benefits from women and children Armstead Sep 2015 #37

Why are Bernie's bad votes "dead horses" DanTex Sep 2015 #39

Because I support Bernie Armstead Sep 2015 #40

The Brady Bill was FEDERAL. Bernie is for STATE control. senz Sep 2015 #64

The Brady Bill didn't stop states from imposing stricter laws. What it did is establish a uniform DanTex Sep 2015 #65

He was referring specifically to waiting periods. senz Sep 2015 #66

The Brady Bill was more than just waiting periods, and bernie voted against the whole thing DanTex Sep 2015 #68

Good representatives consider entire bills & their effect on consituents. senz Sep 2015 #69

Sure, if you're an anti-gun-control right-winger, then Bernie's vote was "good." DanTex Sep 2015 #70

Vermonters are not right-wingers. Don't even try to put Bernie senz Sep 2015 #72

Don't you get it, senz? Anyone who disagrees with Dan is a right wing gun nut. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #77

lol - and here I was expecting logic. senz Sep 2015 #82

Gun CONTROL nt artislife Sep 2015 #84

you know there is no tootsie roll inside, right? restorefreedom Sep 2015 #27

It is funny how this has turned many people pro-gun treestar Sep 2015 #28

That's the funniest thing. People claiming to be progressives suddenly bending over backwards DanTex Sep 2015 #31

and complaining it is brought up over and over again treestar Sep 2015 #47

Sanders is PRO GUN CONTROL Armstead Sep 2015 #35

and he'll have to deal with this question over and over treestar Sep 2015 #48

True. But I'm referring to your mischaracterization of him and those who support him Armstead Sep 2015 #49

My mischaracterization? treestar Sep 2015 #54

Talk about taking the ball and running. TM99 Sep 2015 #62

If I said Hillary was Anti Choice because of some things she might have said or done.... Armstead Sep 2015 #67

Huh? Who needs "special environments" for running? Not Bernie... senz Sep 2015 #74

funny how you continue to just make things up. cali Sep 2015 #45

I'm making up that running for President means treestar Sep 2015 #51

The concern of John Podesta's organization is noted Armstead Sep 2015 #33

Shocking that what is functionally an arm of Hillary's campaign would attack Bernie. cali Sep 2015 #43

Do you expect Bernie not to be attacked by Hillary and her minions? treestar Sep 2015 #50

And how many times have criicisms on Hillary been attacjed as wrong Armstead Sep 2015 #52

exactly, I was getting at the replies that were treestar Sep 2015 #56

I gather you have a problem distinguishing the difference between a poster on DU cali Sep 2015 #59

No I do not, and Hillary's surrogates may be treestar Sep 2015 #61

Maybe he can introduce some phony legislation moobu2 Sep 2015 #44

The concerns of your oligarchic website source Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #53

Maybe to a few voters. Those of us in the reality based world think Bernie's Autumn Sep 2015 #55

He Represented the Good Folks in VT fredamae Sep 2015 #57

Another "gun" rerun??? catnhatnh Sep 2015 #58

It's not "voters" who raise these "concerns," it's Bernie's opposition. senz Sep 2015 #60

Don't you ever get tired of bringing this up and watching it get shot down? tularetom Sep 2015 #63

Objectively speaking, Bernie is against assault rifles for private use, voted to ban high capacity still_one Sep 2015 #78

Stop it!!!! zappaman Sep 2015 #79

well played zappie big_dog Sep 2015 #81

Because H stance of violence is better artislife Sep 2015 #85

She's also pro-death penalty. nt beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #86