2016 Postmortem

in_cog_ni_to

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92. That bill was Joe Biden's gift to BIG BANKS in his state of Delaware. HIS BILL. We can thank BOTH

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 01:50 PM

Oct 2015

Joe and The Hillary for it.

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As a Harvard law professor in 2002, Warren published a journal article excoriating Biden for playing a leading role in delivering legislation that made it more difficult for Americans to reduce debts through bankruptcy filings. As the senator from Delaware, Biden’s repeated push for the bill—signed into law by President George W. Bush in 2005—amounted to “vigorous support of legislation that hurts women,” Warren declared. She said “the group that will be most affected by the changes in the bankruptcy legislation Senator Biden so forcefully supports will be women, particularly women heads of household who are supporting children.” <snip>

http://inthesetimes.com/article/18366/joe-biden-president-bankrupcty-bill

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EVERYONE needs to watch this 5 minute video: Warren vs. Clinton. It's Eye-Opening. Heartbreaking. [View all] reformist2 Oct 2015 OP

Warren asked Clinton to run. Agschmid Oct 2015 #1

Source please, for claim "Warren asked Clinton to run." Scuba Oct 2015 #3

WaPo. Agschmid Oct 2015 #5

Thank you. Scuba Oct 2015 #11

Empty rhetoric. It was a toss off. Totally insincere. senz Oct 2015 #26

Elizabeth Warren is my senator, I voted for her... Agschmid Oct 2015 #30

All politicians play the game to some extent. senz Oct 2015 #41

I don't know how you can in the same post... Agschmid Oct 2015 #48

So what about the words in the video? They are her words jwirr Oct 2015 #44

Warren made the call to sign. Agschmid Oct 2015 #54

...from 10 years earlier brooklynite Oct 2015 #72

The candidate whose words don't call is Hillary. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #116

So why did she encourage her to run then? Agschmid Oct 2015 #117

To be civil. Bernie wasn't running yet. I don't think that Elizabeth Warren has strongly JDPriestly Oct 2015 #120

This is almost laughable. Some folks are in complete denial that Elizabeth Warren asked Hillary to still_one Oct 2015 #134

So even Warren has no integrity ?!1? wow, St Bernie must be proud to be the only one in US politics uponit7771 Oct 2015 #86

NO. Warren has more integrity in her little finger than senz Oct 2015 #89

Unnnnnn, sounds wingerish... We disagree .... None of these people can throw stones uponit7771 Oct 2015 #98

lol -- "move along, nothing to see here" senz Oct 2015 #101

There's no talking to wingerish hate of Clinton... There's nothing there uponit7771 Oct 2015 #102

Nothing "wingerish" in our distaste for Clinton. senz Oct 2015 #107

Yes it is, sounds straight out of freeperville... same arguments even same pics on DU uponit7771 Oct 2015 #156

Nope. To us, Hillary's straight outta freeperville. senz Oct 2015 #166

+1 stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #143

Everytime these Clinton negatives come up, its the same Hillbot non-defense cprise Oct 2015 #141

Same pictures of Hillary from Freeperville have been posted here... that's fact, not an accusation uponit7771 Oct 2015 #158

Actually it comes down to how many stones can you throw? mdbl Oct 2015 #154

Bookmarked, none of them can throw a stone cause none of them are that damn perfect over uponit7771 Oct 2015 #159

My point is they will throw them anyway mdbl Oct 2015 #162

She's a Democrat, they all respond to another Dem running. Means nothing other than Party support. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #45

Another source... Agschmid Oct 2015 #8

Would have been political suicide for any female Dem Senator not to sign that letter. senz Oct 2015 #31

You point is moot. Agschmid Oct 2015 #37

Warren IS a leader on principle. But to stay a leader, she has to get along with the group. senz Oct 2015 #58

At least my images help. Agschmid Oct 2015 #62

That's not principled leadership at all, that's just the opposite. Let me do what these guys do so I uponit7771 Oct 2015 #87

It's called picking your battles. senz Oct 2015 #91

OK Clinton has has more battles to pick... Has as much integrity as Sanders uponit7771 Oct 2015 #97

Hillary has no integrity. senz Oct 2015 #99

Not into wingerish hate of Clinton uponit7771 Oct 2015 #100

Ahhh, new definition of "wingerish." senz Oct 2015 #105

+1 Enthusiast Oct 2015 #125

Warren's leadership is not in question here. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #119

Plus one to the absolute Max! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #126

JD, Hillary is still a regime-change war monger. cprise Oct 2015 #142

I'm with you. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #146

I'm not. Agschmid Oct 2015 #153

Keep in mind this happened long before anyone knew Bernie would run and no one else was in sight. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #15

It's just we don't know that. Agschmid Oct 2015 #18

Maybe, maybe not. winter is coming Oct 2015 #36

I agree, in no way is the letter an endorsement of any kind. Agschmid Oct 2015 #39

she is anti 1% policies questionseverything Oct 2015 #82

Yet she encouraged Hillary to run... Agschmid Oct 2015 #84

Whaaaad!!!.... global1 Oct 2015 #9

Links above. Agschmid Oct 2015 #10

She signed a letter with others asking her to run. BEFORE Bernie Autumn Oct 2015 #20

There isn't really a "Before Bernie"... Agschmid Oct 2015 #67

Before Bernie announced he was running, so yeah there was a "Before Bernie"... Autumn Oct 2015 #113

Thanks. Agschmid Oct 2015 #118

I second that request -- source please! Maineman Oct 2015 #16

Posted twice about 30 minutes before your post. Agschmid Oct 2015 #19

I say "Run,Joe Run!" artislife Oct 2015 #106

The people who support Hillary do not care. SamKnause Oct 2015 #2

True, the Hillbots are too far gone. But the undecideds, they will be shocked by this video! reformist2 Oct 2015 #7

If people are going to be single issue voters, I think the issue should not be gender. Maineman Oct 2015 #17

I've always had a bit of a problem with the term "Hillbot." planetc Oct 2015 #29

Looks like the jury system will be allowing "Hillbot" Flying Squirrel Oct 2015 #70

Thanks, and good to hear. Quite honestly it fits those who don't go to her rallies, don't engage in reformist2 Oct 2015 #83

What's wrong with "Hillbot." Fawke Em Oct 2015 #95

I think these 'bot' names are kind of funny. I guess that makes me a Berniebot? reformist2 Oct 2015 #111

I'm a Sandersnista. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #151

Yes, juror #6 is totally clueless. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #123

Should be required watching... Blus4u Oct 2015 #4

I support Hillary and I do care about the deaths from gun violence. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #6

Guns/weapons are also a global issue.. CentralMass Oct 2015 #32

Isn't this thread about a bankruptcy bill? I didn't hear guns mentioned once in the video. think Oct 2015 #33

Lives matter. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #76

It's an attempted slam on Bernie. Just grab anything and throw it. senz Oct 2015 #96

"I represented Wall St." -Hillary hootinholler Oct 2015 #12

Still does too. eom NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #13

Lloyd Blankfein: "I held fundraisers for her." (HRC) nt antigop Oct 2015 #73

What I find frightening here . freedom fighter jh Oct 2015 #14

I know this sounds a bit ridiculous, but she's kind of like Darth Vader. reformist2 Oct 2015 #21

omg,that's what I was thinking... yuiyoshida Oct 2015 #43

"that's not to say he'll always be able to stand up for our interests" snagglepuss Oct 2015 #22

Yes. freedom fighter jh Oct 2015 #51

Think Of Her Actions As 'Calculated Moves' To Achieve Her Lifelong Goal..... global1 Oct 2015 #23

Agree Completely - In The Zeal To Elect A Female President - Much Has Been Overlooked cantbeserious Oct 2015 #28

she has flip flopped on almost every issue Doctor_J Oct 2015 #42

We all know Hillary is extremely intelligent and probably more intelligent than JRLeft Oct 2015 #52

I'm with you. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #127

Bernie says repeatedly that he can't do it w/o the people. senz Oct 2015 #94

What's frightening is she had some control over WH policy cprise Oct 2015 #137

At the very least, she should be strongly repudiating Bill's failed policies. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #152

I have to wonder if Bill and Hillary moved to that part of New York so she could Maineman Oct 2015 #24

I blame the system more than Hillary, ejbr Oct 2015 #25

Hillary is doing what needs to be done to keep Dem's at the table of power lewebley3 Oct 2015 #50

Bernie has actually forced me to chill some about Hillary. freedom fighter jh Oct 2015 #57

I blame Hillary. She should give the interests of the people, the General Welfare, highest priority. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #129

Bernie Sanders voted against the Bankruptcy Bill. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #135

He didn't think the bill went far enough and it didn't. JRLeft Oct 2015 #145

The Bankruptcy Bill was what the bank lobbyists wanted. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #167

HRC - Still Beholden To Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks cantbeserious Oct 2015 #27

Hillary is her own person! lewebley3 Oct 2015 #35

In The Zeal To Elect A Female President - Much Has Been Overlooked cantbeserious Oct 2015 #47

That fact Hillary is best qualified and the most dedicated Dem is not overlooked! lewebley3 Oct 2015 #53

So Say You - Others See The World Much Differently - Experience Does Not Trump Liability cantbeserious Oct 2015 #56

Hillary is almost alone in running because most Dem's find her to be the best of Dem's lewebley3 Oct 2015 #59

So Say You - Others See The World Much Differently - Experience Does Not Trump Liability cantbeserious Oct 2015 #61

Not to worry!! pocoloco Oct 2015 #79

Agreed - Therein Lies The Problem - If That Happens - Say Hello To Our New Republican President cantbeserious Oct 2015 #80

This kind of post just helps the GOP: Hillary is a great Dem lewebley3 Oct 2015 #34

hopefully it helps democrats choose a good candidate instead of a soulless Doctor_J Oct 2015 #46

Hillary has a soul that is why she is a Dem: If she didn't she would be a GOP lewebley3 Oct 2015 #55

Hillary Started Life As A Republican - Her Soul Has One Goal - Be President At All Cost cantbeserious Oct 2015 #60

This is such an over the top post. Agschmid Oct 2015 #68

It's kind of true, though. reformist2 Oct 2015 #69

*kind of. Agschmid Oct 2015 #78

You cantbeserious. zappaman Oct 2015 #169

"Soulless opportunist" YoungDemCA Oct 2015 #108

She was like a cabinet member in the 90s, but cprise Oct 2015 #139

The Clinton fans no longer consider facts or issues, period Doctor_J Oct 2015 #38

It is THE problem w. HRC. Smarmie Doofus Oct 2015 #40

This is what I am most afraid of and because she is taking jwirr Oct 2015 #66

+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #128

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #131

Money talks when you're in Congress. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #49

+100%! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #132

I was so hopeful StoneCarver Oct 2015 #63

Exactly. Hillary *could* have been a great leader, but she sold out to guarantee herself some power. reformist2 Oct 2015 #74

Sigh! Thanks reformist2. eom Duval Oct 2015 #64

Thank you for sharing lovemydog Oct 2015 #65

Elizabeth Warren: I hope Hillary Clinton runs for president brooklynite Oct 2015 #71

That is standard Party boosterism. A "yeah, me too". n/t cprise Oct 2015 #140

Right, because Eizabeth Warren is just another politician who'll say anything? brooklynite Oct 2015 #160

You're deflecting criticism. cprise Oct 2015 #161

And 10 years later she enouraged Clinton to run on a TV broadcast, for gosh sake brooklynite Oct 2015 #163

And before Bernie ran, he wasn't in the Party. Its too bad you're not going to see cprise Oct 2015 #164

Doesn't bother me...the important thing is that the voters are... brooklynite Oct 2015 #165

There is a difference between running and voting. It seems to me that Warren, in the OP, DhhD Oct 2015 #75

I believe Joe Biden voted in favor of that same bill Auggie Oct 2015 #77

That bill was Joe Biden's gift to BIG BANKS in his state of Delaware. HIS BILL. We can thank BOTH in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #92

More like returning a favor than a gift Auggie Oct 2015 #114

A video everyone should see before casting a vote Oilwellian Oct 2015 #81

A prime example of HRC floriduck Oct 2015 #85

upaloopa quote: "Hillary isn't blowing smoke up people's asses even if you don't think so." floriduck Oct 2015 #88

They know the truth and don't care. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #93

Nice catch. Clinton is the credit card companies' ace davemac Oct 2015 #90

It was Biden's poison bill in the first place. See above. hedda_foil Oct 2015 #121

Exhibit A why I'll never trust Hillary. CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #103

Just like Hillary, her supporters don't care and won't own it whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #104

This highlights a real tragedy in our society Hydra Oct 2015 #109

"She worries about them as a constituency." Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #110

Thank you for posting. Hillary is an unprincipled corporatist war hawk Broward Oct 2015 #112

Why I will not vote for Hillary. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #115

Bought and Bossed. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #122

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #124

KnR! n/t Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #130

I Cannot Possibly Kick & Rec This Post Enough !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #133

The Hillary camp hates this video. Because when Elizabeth Warren stings, it hurts - badly! reformist2 Oct 2015 #170

Hillary Clinton=expediency! emsimon33 Oct 2015 #136

K&R Says all that needs to be said. raouldukelives Oct 2015 #138

I am voting for Hillary Rodham Clinton.... stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #144

Obviously it's not about the issues for you. JRLeft Oct 2015 #148

Obviously you don't know me stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #149

She's bought and paid for, but you still back her. So it's not about the issues. JRLeft Oct 2015 #150

that is RENJ talk. stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #155

What bothers me about Hillary is not that she doesn't "get it". It is that she DOES, but... Bonobo Oct 2015 #147

This is very simular as to issues that Obama has dealt with. INdemo Oct 2015 #157

Cut that out! marym625 Oct 2015 #168

Kick. Please watch this video. It is a true reveal Hillary Clinton's character. nt Bonobo Oct 2015 #171