2016 Postmortem

Aerows

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50. They want you to waste time explaining things

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:04 PM

Oct 2015

They don't want a conversation - they want you to sit and educate them while they pretend they don't understand so you aren't doing other things.

The more time of yours that they waste, the better. That's why I put that addendum at the bottom of my post below. If anyone wants to learn about the financial industry, there are PLENTY of places to get information, and nobody here is interested in offering a free education in Economics except Bernie.

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Sanders supporters, do you still support him if he asks you to help pay for his policy platform? [View all] hill2016 Oct 2015 OP

Yep. TDale313 Oct 2015 #1

Me too. aidbo Oct 2015 #4

Yes. n/t winter is coming Oct 2015 #2

Bernie has been most frugal with his campaign money, I expect he will do the same as President. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #3

At first I read that as "frivolous pantsuits" n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #97

Funny, you have the same question as Fox Business Channel! portlander23 Oct 2015 #5

"It's scary!" She literally called it scary. aidbo Oct 2015 #9

We're all scared of the socialism! portlander23 Oct 2015 #14

Oh, is that was FBC stands for? I thought it was Fucking Bullshit Channel. n/t winter is coming Oct 2015 #47

You are correct Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #150

I think rich people should be made to pay Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #6

so basically your answer is no hill2016 Oct 2015 #10

You can't get blood out of a stone Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #26

I admire you for your frankness. Those who don't have the means would of course still_one Oct 2015 #106

Or even upper middle class. Like me. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #37

Yes, and of course he does talk about how it will be paid for. HERVEPA Oct 2015 #7

nope he doesn't hill2016 Oct 2015 #13

You are beginning to sound like Donald Trump Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #27

so no answer? hill2016 Oct 2015 #55

would I pay more in taxes for single payer healthcare? ibegurpard Oct 2015 #8

I said hill2016 Oct 2015 #19

if higher taxes are going to programs I support ibegurpard Oct 2015 #36

What happened in Vermont was the reverse magic beans story of not being able to afford TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #82

Thank you for the explanation. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #90

Most welcome TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #128

As long as he asks nicely Jan Bunson Oct 2015 #11

YES. YES. YES. But Bernie isn't going to Autumn Oct 2015 #12

so if he says he has to hill2016 Oct 2015 #16

I don't think Universal Health Care can work Jan Bunson Oct 2015 #34

Yes I would be happy to pay more in taxes for universal health care. Did you know the Autumn Oct 2015 #42

universal healthcare has got to start with reducing costs questionseverything Oct 2015 #65

and hill2016 Oct 2015 #69

Because when you have universal healthcare.. Kentonio Oct 2015 #91

that is why it has got to be single payer and a federal effort questionseverything Oct 2015 #111

hm.. hill2016 Oct 2015 #133

i am not advocating that they "cannot" treat anyone but that they must treat all questionseverything Oct 2015 #136

Yes. LoveIsNow Oct 2015 #15

ok thanks hill2016 Oct 2015 #18

Bernie is anything but vague in how he will pay for his programs (visit his website to learn), plus cpompilo Oct 2015 #17

so hill2016 Oct 2015 #22

Sure. I had to help pay for the ACA. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #20

As long as he doesn't ask us to also pay Hillary's campaign debts Fumesucker Oct 2015 #21

I did contribute & would've been better off wiping my ass with the money just to know how it felt. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #83

He has specifically said how he is going to pay for it Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #23

then hill2016 Oct 2015 #24

He has explained this Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #28

And some have refused to listen..... daleanime Oct 2015 #41

They want you to waste time explaining things Aerows Oct 2015 #50

No doubt that that is part of it... daleanime Oct 2015 #54

when and where? hill2016 Oct 2015 #58

When and where what? n/t Aerows Oct 2015 #62

OOohhh... it's a fight! Fawke Em Oct 2015 #95

when and where? hill2016 Oct 2015 #57

like when and where? hill2016 Oct 2015 #56

........ daleanime Oct 2015 #73

Financial transaction taxes, Aerows Oct 2015 #45

so hill2016 Oct 2015 #63

You do know that he's the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, I assume? hedda_foil Oct 2015 #77

Yes, I will pay more. SDjack Oct 2015 #25

You bet!!!! newfie11 Oct 2015 #29

Do I want to pay more taxes? Of course not. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #30

Yes. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #31

Amen.... daleanime Oct 2015 #35

to be fair hill2016 Oct 2015 #53

I disagree that it is a fair assessment. Aerows Oct 2015 #61

So hill2016 Oct 2015 #66

Hmm. Aerows Oct 2015 #75

Yep, this one is attempting to waste our time, I think also. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #92

"This one" posed a legitimate question. That you don't like it doesn't make it a "waste of time". BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #115

The original question was legit, SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #118

Well, duh.... daleanime Oct 2015 #32

Yes. Matariki Oct 2015 #33

but remember hill2016 Oct 2015 #67

Whether I'm "behind" is not my only basis for judgment. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #119

Sanders addressed how to pay for both those programs as well. Matariki Oct 2015 #147

Yes Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #38

Yes tblue Oct 2015 #39

Yes - Between Savings On The MIC And Single Payer - Suspect Neutral Impact For The Middle Class cantbeserious Oct 2015 #40

If its so bad in Denmark, why are they the happiest country on earth? Try something else litlbilly Oct 2015 #43

YES SarasotaDem Oct 2015 #44

A President Sanders can not raise taxes. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #46

Health care for all, free college. Those are investments. Autumn Oct 2015 #52

Then question asks how Much will each citizen be willing to pay Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #71

thanks for your viewpoint hill2016 Oct 2015 #72

The idea of a graduated tax system sound like it could be a good idea. Autumn Oct 2015 #79

If the 2020 election see a majority of steps controled by Democrats Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #81

BINGO! Congress *not* the president sets tax laws... BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #114

Easy, he'll just tell big pharma to "cut... cut it out" problem solved! n/t That Guy 888 Oct 2015 #48

Yes. hifiguy Oct 2015 #49

Your fallacy is in thinking that we are not paying for extraordinary corporate welfare now. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #51

^^ Thread win. n/t winter is coming Oct 2015 #59

This ^^^ Melurkyoulongtime Oct 2015 #87

You just made this thread worth the time. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #93

+1000000000 azmom Oct 2015 #120

Why don't you ask the Canadians whether sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #60

I already passive massive taxes on a $200,000 year income and get nothing for it. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #64

ok hill2016 Oct 2015 #68

That was the question of the OP. Obviously you are not paying attention. nt Mnemosyne Oct 2015 #85

from the math I have done I will save money even with icreased tax proposals. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #89

Yes. plus5mace Oct 2015 #70

Yes!!!! JRLeft Oct 2015 #74

Absolutely! bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #76

I don't tend to support taxing Social Security benefits but have long supported an increase in the TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #78

^THIS^ - especially last paragraph. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #94

Yes, like evey other advanced nation. Only right wingers think they can free stuff and no one has to sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #80

I absolutely would pay more tax to have single payer healthcare, PatrickforO Oct 2015 #84

Yes! n/t woodsprite Oct 2015 #86

Yeah. Glad to. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #88

Absolutely. For example, the no tuition is a tax on the very wealthy, and Bernie's major platform EndElectoral Oct 2015 #96

Yes, I am willing to pay more income tax TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #98

Everyone would pay for it AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #99

How about cutting corporate welfare? Do you assume he will be against that Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #100

If Sanders agenda is implemented it will cost much more money from everyone. Denmark is not known Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #101

Yes. pinstikfartherin Oct 2015 #102

i absouletly support a progressive tax plan that funds policies that put people ahead of CentralMass Oct 2015 #103

He would not get anything close to his proposal through Congress Evergreen Emerald Oct 2015 #104

Yup JackInGreen Oct 2015 #105

Just stopping by from Fox News, are ya? 99Forever Oct 2015 #107

You mean Our Tax$ being used fredamae Oct 2015 #108

Yes. peacebird Oct 2015 #109

Of course. Android3.14 Oct 2015 #110

End corporate welfare. TM99 Oct 2015 #112

Of course. I'm a socialist. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #113

Funny, we found trillions to invade and slaughter Iraq, didn't we? Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #116

It all depends on the tax, the purpose and the amount Armstead Oct 2015 #117

Democratic Socialism is alive and well. This is a no-brainer. nt edgineered Oct 2015 #121

Yeap, bunch of upper middle class or near working rich folk say yes. Most working poor would say no! uponit7771 Oct 2015 #122

You forgot one thing about the tax rate in Denmark... BooScout Oct 2015 #123

thanks for your reminder hill2016 Oct 2015 #134

And you accuse US of using rightwing talking points??? senz Oct 2015 #124

basically your answer to my question is "no" hill2016 Oct 2015 #135

Reading comprehension problems? You got it wrong. senz Oct 2015 #140

So a 59% tax on every dollar over Kang Colby Oct 2015 #125

"..financial transaction tax is also bad idea because it has been shown to lower overall tax ... GoneFishin Oct 2015 #129

No. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #130

I trust your ability to find quotes from high frequency traders who will say anything to continue GoneFishin Oct 2015 #131

Yes, I didn't think you could refute my point. n/t Kang Colby Oct 2015 #132

sadly hill2016 Oct 2015 #142

I agree. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #144

So, how much are you willing to continue to pay for the Hunger Games. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #126

OP? Do you think we are so stupid we don't know how the system works? nt Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #127

Yes. frylock Oct 2015 #137

Yes. It seems "we'll be taxed like Denmark" is the lie of the day. Vinca Oct 2015 #138

sorry hill2016 Oct 2015 #143

I'm saying Bernie has elaborated on how he will pay for his programs and it doesn't include Vinca Oct 2015 #151

Is there a candidate whose policies I WON'T have to pay for? cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #139

yes. nt redwitch Oct 2015 #141

Yes (nt) bigwillq Oct 2015 #145

I assume that unless I'm voting for a voodoo economist, I will have to pay for additional spending. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #146

Yes. I want higher taxes in exchange for those social programs. Chan790 Oct 2015 #148

Why not? We're already paying for Hillary's policy platform brentspeak Oct 2015 #149